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#6440934 - 09/06/16 05:57 PM Deer lease rules?
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Registered: 07/13/09
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Loc: Allen, Tx
I have been leasing a piece of property for 6 years now with no problems at all (handshake deal). We have been leasing from the rancher which had the hunting and grazing rights.The landowner recently decided to turn those rights over to his neighbor. Both the land owner and new rancher (leaseholder) wants to keep us on the place. They trust us and know we are not there to kill everything off.

The new rancher has not given me a price yet for what he is going to charge. I understand that the dollar amount will more than likely go up from where I was which is not a problem. My question is that he had asked for my information such as email address home address and drivers license number. Is it normal to give do number when signing a lease?

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#6440943 - 09/06/16 06:01 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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I would balk at the DL#. Offer him your hunting license number instead. Really no reason for him to need your DL#. I could understand your license plate number and a description of vehicle so he knows who is on the place. Email and home address would be used for communication obviously but no reason for him to need your DL# unless he wants it in case you were to write him a hot check. LOL
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#6440946 - 09/06/16 06:04 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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Would not give my dl. If he doesn't want a check and wants cash that's fine.


Also why would you expect rates to go up?

I would expect them to stay the same. No reason to raise rates after 6 years of a good relationship...

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#6440949 - 09/06/16 06:07 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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If he is preparing a lease contract it would not be unusual to have that number to go with your name on the contract. Especially in matters of liability, it's an easy way to find your current address if needed. If you were hunting on our lease, all this information would be required.


Edited by Pitchfork Predator (09/06/16 06:15 PM)
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#6440957 - 09/06/16 06:13 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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Our land owner use to ask for the same info even asked for a copy of our DL. I think he used this as a picture ID incase he ever had a problem. I found it odd the first year since I had never been asked for this info before but found it normal their after.

Good luck hope you are able to keep your lease.

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#6440960 - 09/06/16 06:16 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.
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#6440965 - 09/06/16 06:19 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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I don't think so on the DL....you have been there for 6 years that should account for something.

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#6440990 - 09/06/16 06:33 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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Our lease requires a DL#, or you simply do not lease.
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#6441187 - 09/06/16 08:36 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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Loc: Allen, Tx
I expect the lease to go up because I was paying an extremely low rate. When I was invited to be on the lease the other guys had already been on it for 9 years prior. Lease rates have gone through the roof in the last 16 years. Still not sure why he said he does not know what he is going to charge.

I love the lease so I plan to stay on it unless I can't afford it.

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#6441283 - 09/06/16 09:25 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: rexmitchell]
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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.

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#6441307 - 09/06/16 09:37 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: Cleric]
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Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


I'd rather give someone my dl number than bank account number, just saying, the potential for fraud is way higher with the bank account number. When have you ever seen identity theft with a dl number?
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#6441373 - 09/06/16 10:05 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: Cleric]
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Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


Frankly if I was a landowner leasing to you and you refused providing me this information I would view it as a red flag that you have something to hide and I would be inclined not to lease to you.
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#6441390 - 09/06/16 10:19 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


Frankly if I was a landowner leasing to you and you refused providing me this information I would view it as a red flag that you have something to hide and I would be inclined not to lease to you.


Agreed, you are about to cut a stranger loose on your land.....it's not like he is asking for your SS#, that would be different.


Edited by rexmitchell (09/06/16 10:20 PM)
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#6441408 - 09/06/16 10:31 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: rexmitchell]
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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


I'd rather give someone my dl number than bank account number, just saying, the potential for fraud is way higher with the bank account number. When have you ever seen identity theft with a dl number?


A lot of id theft is helped with dl...

Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


Frankly if I was a landowner leasing to you and you refused providing me this information I would view it as a red flag that you have something to hide and I would be inclined not to lease to you.

Would you be willing to give a copy of the deed or proof of ownership?

Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
If you are comfortable giving him a personal check which contains your bank account number, full name, home address, etc I don't see why you wouldn't I've him your dl number.


There is a huge difference...

I am surprised people would give out there dl number so easily.


Frankly if I was a landowner leasing to you and you refused providing me this information I would view it as a red flag that you have something to hide and I would be inclined not to lease to you.


Agreed, you are about to cut a stranger loose on your land.....it's not like he is asking for your SS#, that would be different.


If I have your dl, full address, bank account, it would not be hard to do some dmg.

It has to go both ways imo. I would ask the owner to prove ownership of land to protect me. Or a copy of the loan, etc


If I was a land owner there are better ways to get information than have personal identifiable info.

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#6441420 - 09/06/16 10:39 PM Re: Deer lease rules? [Re: ijohnston]
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A copy of my DL is included with a lot of different transactions and I have even giving it to someone I bought a gun from that was on the Internet. Figure as many places that have already made a copy of it have it, I wouldn't have an issue giving it to a rancher. His lease, his rules.
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