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#6439195 - 09/05/16 03:47 PM Wild plums and Black Walnuts
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Went exploring this weekend and located some edibles that I would like to distribute around the property as a natural food source. I located 2 types of plums, one was small and really sour the other was pretty tasty and larger. I think the edible was a Chickasaw Plum based on internet pics, the other might be a Mexican Plum. I gathered some to attempt a planting of the seeds for eventual transplant.

The trees were heavily encroached by cedars and I will remedy that next month. I saw numerous hog tracks under around but no deer.

I assume deer would like these as well. Anyone have these in central (Callahan Co.) Texas?



I also located a small trees bearing green fruit about the size of a green ping pong ball. I am guessing it is some king of nut after cutting it open. Locals said it was a Black Walnut. Going to do more research on these as well.

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#6439275 - 09/05/16 04:35 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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A hog can't even crack a black walnut. The wood makes awesome knife handles and gun stocks and it's the best cooking wood you can find. But they aren't a food source.
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#6439285 - 09/05/16 04:46 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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Apparently, hogs can crack the shell.

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#6439329 - 09/05/16 05:17 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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Just going on my own personal experience. Fed the neighbors hogs hickory nuts and they had no problem crushing and eating them. Slip a black walnut in (this is a 400+# boar) and he would chew it on both sides and spit it out whole.

Did this several times over the years growing up just for entertainment.

Never ever saw one crush a black walnut.

But hey, knock yourself out if you think it's worth feeding walnuts.
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#6439352 - 09/05/16 05:42 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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I think this comes down to the issue of equating behavior with capability. This often leads to erroneous conclusions.

Other folks feed their hogs black walnuts as well.
http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/livestock-forums/pigs/415560-about-black-walnuts.html

http://www.franciscanfamilyfarms.com/2008/09/16/free-hog-feed-coming-into-season/
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#6439361 - 09/05/16 05:56 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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No. I'm talking about capability. It is my experience that full grown boar hogs cannot crush black walnuts. Period. Tried it many times over several years. Won money on bets off of it.

Multiple hogs over years.

I don't doubt that there might be a pig somewhere that can do it. But not the ones I was feeding them to.

Also I'm not certain whether black walnuts in plantations (mentioned in your example) might be different from the ones growing wild in east Texas. I know the ones in the bottoms of central Texas don't grow as big as the ones in east Texas.

Bottom line is if you're growing them for deer you can forget their food value. Most people I know don't grow food sources for pigs.
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#6439403 - 09/05/16 06:41 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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Well they should destroy even the sour plums right?

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#6439450 - 09/05/16 07:12 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
No. I'm talking about capability. It is my experience that full grown boar hogs cannot crush black walnuts. Period. Tried it many times over several years. Won money on bets off of it.

Multiple hogs over years.

I don't doubt that there might be a pig somewhere that can do it. But not the ones I was feeding them to.

Also I'm not certain whether black walnuts in plantations (mentioned in your example) might be different from the ones growing wild in east Texas. I know the ones in the bottoms of central Texas don't grow as big as the ones in east Texas.

Bottom line is if you're growing them for deer you can forget their food value. Most people I know don't grow food sources for pigs.
never say never


Edited by colt45 (09/05/16 07:12 PM)
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#6439567 - 09/05/16 08:08 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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We have a ton of wild plum bushes on out place in Kent county. They only fruit for 2-3 weeks during June. They are interesting to watch. There is always deer and pig tracks around them and the birds clean up the top branches.

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#6439758 - 09/05/16 09:39 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: colt45]
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Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: therancher
No. I'm talking about capability. It is my experience that full grown boar hogs cannot crush black walnuts. Period. Tried it many times over several years. Won money on bets off of it.

Multiple hogs over years.

I don't doubt that there might be a pig somewhere that can do it. But not the ones I was feeding them to.

Also I'm not certain whether black walnuts in plantations (mentioned in your example) might be different from the ones growing wild in east Texas. I know the ones in the bottoms of central Texas don't grow as big as the ones in east Texas.

Bottom line is if you're growing them for deer you can forget their food value. Most people I know don't grow food sources for pigs.
never say never


I'll bring the walnuts. You provide the pigs. I'll bet whatever you want that they won't successfully crush them.

Never. Not ever. Never ever.
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#6439770 - 09/05/16 09:44 PM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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Raised in Callahan county ( east central ) and we had a lot of plums that we called sand plums that matured middle May thru early June. They are sour but make great jelly if you can afford the sugar and have a sweet tart flavor. Lot of work just fighting chiggers and yellow jackets to pick them along with copper heads and rattle snakes. rifle

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#6439975 - 09/06/16 12:09 AM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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If you ate a plum with one of those small holes in it, it may have had extra protein in the form of a worm. sick

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#6440004 - 09/06/16 05:57 AM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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We use to pick wild plums on a ranch in Lampasas county. My grandmother use to make the best jelly out of them. Hard to beat when you spoon a glob of it in a hot bisquit and butter.

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#6440021 - 09/06/16 06:31 AM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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great jelly
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#6440033 - 09/06/16 06:44 AM Re: Wild plums and Black Walnuts [Re: glocker17]
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I also heard that you can get a jar full of wild plums, add gin and tighten the lid. Place on a sunny window seal. Thump the lid and when it's a high pitch "ping", it's ready to drink.

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