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#6436527 - 09/02/16 10:43 PM Remington Mountain Rifle
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I have been looking at getting a new mountain rifle. I was leaning toward a Kimber. But the price Is a pretty tough pill for me to swallow. I started looking at Remington mountain rifles. It's more that 1/2 less than the Kimber and only about a pound heavier. Looking to see if anyone has any input on the Remington. I own several Remington rifles and have always been pleased with their performance.

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#6436598 - 09/03/16 12:17 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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If that is what you are looking for then just get a tikka light , best bang for the buck in a ultra light

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#6436646 - 09/03/16 05:50 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Brother in-law]
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
If that is what you are looking for then just get a tikka light , best bang for the buck in a ultra light



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#6436675 - 09/03/16 07:01 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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The new Tikka T3x Lite model is a bit lighter than the T3 Lite.

Comparing the two in .270, the T3 is 6.188 pounds, the T3x is 5.9 pounds.

Going for a walnut stocked model adds roughly .7 pounds.

Talley rings/mounts of aluminum will save some weight, as will careful selection of a compact scope like the Leupold 2-7x34 for example, which in many cases will work with low rings.

Every ounce counts when you are hauling the thing uphill in rough terrain.

There is no weight advantage to be had with short action cartridges in the Tikka, so you might as well go with the more powerful 270.

If you want a bit more power without being knocked off of the mountain by the recoil, the 270WSM is definitely worth a look. I have owned many accurate rifles... The most accurate rifle that I have ever owned was a 270WSM.


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#6436994 - 09/03/16 12:40 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: kmon1]
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Originally Posted By: kmon1
Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
If that is what you are looking for then just get a tikka light , best bang for the buck in a ultra light



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Yup!

And it doesn't need a hundert dollar Timney trigger like the Rem 700 does.
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#6437569 - 09/03/16 10:10 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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Thanks for the tikka recomendations. But I only want a made in the USA rifle. Nothing against tikka but it just a personal decision I made a long time ago.

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#6437675 - 09/04/16 05:15 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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IMO the closest thing to a Tikka, with their shared SAKO barrels, on the US market today, at double plus the price of a similar styled Tikka T3, is a Kimber.

KImber's are about the same weight, IMO have a better WW styled 3 position wing safety, prettier wood on those models, but may not shoot as well out of the box...or ever, hence the trite nickname that has been coined over the years of the phrase when buying a Kimber of "playing Kimber Casino".

FWIW the Tikka T3 is the result of SAKO's 130 year old company history of dedication to excellence in hand finishing, and that marriage to the previous parent company, Nokia's obsession with High Tech manufacturing that no US Firearms manufacturer has ever, and most likely will never achieve in a consumer moderate level price point product. Tikka T3's are designed from the ground up to be a "plug & play" product. My only criticism is that they do not meet most US consumers idea of esthetics, as they are a little bland and plain looking. Want something prettier? buy a SAKO at 4+ times the price of a Tikka.
JMHO & YMMV
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#6437716 - 09/04/16 07:14 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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I have a customer who brought in a Tikka for some reduction of the trigger pull. He wanted it at two pounds. Later he brought in another gun for the same treatment, and he said, "It's the same as the Tikka."

What he had was a T/C Venture.

Knowing that there are design differences between the two, I was dubious about his claim. - But from the shoulder, the two rifles really were amazingly similar. The Venture (American made) did weigh a bit more, but not much.

If you get a chance to look at a Venture, that might be just what you are looking for. See how it feels to you.

They make a compact model for the short action cartridges that may be just what you are looking for.

These are rock solid firearms with 5-R rifling and a MOA guarantee. The price is medium... Bud's Gun Shop online has one in 280 Remington for $445 with free shipping. The others are 450-460 something.

TC Ventures at Buds


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#6437865 - 09/04/16 10:32 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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I had a 700 Mountain Rifle in .280, once upon a time. For whatever reason, that rifle was just a punishing and hateful brute to fire so it ended up going down the road. Subsequent .280s I have owned were all much more reasonable in the recoil department. I think it was just the way the stock related to my own frame. I am glad it's gone.

The Model 70 Featherweight Compact might interest you. It's only available currently in .22-250, .243, 7mm-08, and .308 Winchester. It comes with a 20-inch barrel and weighs in at 6-1/2 pounds. As I understand it M70s are assembled in Portugal using US-manufactured parts. Whether or not that meets your desire for an American-made rifle or not is entirely your gig.

I can attest to the quality of the new M70s, though. They are well made and nicely finished and come with a great trigger (don't believe the crappola about the MOA trigger being bad!), but you might end up wanting to put a lighter spring in it. M70s feature the best safety on the market and controlled-round feed, which may or may not matter to you.
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#6438018 - 09/04/16 01:43 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: RiverRider]
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river rider - that's interesting info on the 280 Remington. That is the exact caliber I was looking at. In the Kimber I was leaning toward a 270 WSM. I realize that the recoil form both of this will be substantial, but I am looking for a mountain rifle that will be going up and down mountains in BC and Alaska. So I am more concerned about the weight of the rifle than perceived recoil. Was you 280 accurate?

Charlesb - I have looked at the TC but the weight is the deal breaker on them for me.


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#6438510 - 09/04/16 09:03 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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Mine was mediocre in the accuracy department, but I can't say that a part of that was not due to the awful recoil. I did NOT like pulling the trigger on that beast. The thing is, though, the stock may fit you better than it fit me. I don't think my perception of the recoil of the Mountain Rifle in .280 is very common. I was just unlucky enough to be one of the few who the stock doesn't suit very well (no other rational explanation). I replaced that rifle with a 77 Mk.II that only weighed three or four ounces more, and the recoil was very tolerable. You might take a look at what Ruger has to offer, now that I've mentioned that. It's got the features of the Model 70, except for the fine trigger (there are economical solutions, though) and it's just not as nicely made as the M70...IMO, of course.
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#6438600 - 09/04/16 10:16 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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Nosler rifles would be worth a look. They have one chambered in .280 ackley at 7lbs. My bil has one we are working up some loads for right now for a aoudad hunt. Should be a goat getter slinging the 180gr Berger hybrids!
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#6438660 - 09/04/16 11:03 PM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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Weatherby makes a bunch of lightweight model rifles.

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#6438758 - 09/05/16 07:28 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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Don't forget your customs either. The APR maverick might be just what you're after. It's will be made in the USA, Texas specifically

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#6438761 - 09/05/16 07:30 AM Re: Remington Mountain Rifle [Re: Erny]
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They make a mountain version that's 7.2lbs with scope

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