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#6431291 - 08/30/16 11:35 AM My axis had a Mysterious death.
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Had 2 axis die that were pen axis. 1 male 1 female, both were 3 years old. Im in brazoria county, so we have had a lot of rain last several days. So i am guessing parasite. Anyhow when gutted open to inspect about 3+ gallons of fluid, which i believe was water spilled out. They were both filled from lungs to tail. What was strange was there was very little blood left in the animals and large areas internally had turned black. Ill try to think of more details but very puzzled. They were the only animals in the pen. Pics to follow.
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#6431337 - 08/30/16 11:52 AM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Pneumonia related?

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#6431417 - 08/30/16 12:35 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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#6431420 - 08/30/16 12:36 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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#6431426 - 08/30/16 12:38 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Anthrax? Time of year and lots of rain made me think it's a possibility.

"Animals with anthrax, a septicemic disease, may develop edema, hemorrhage, and necrotic lesions
(de Vos, 2003). Sero-sanguinous fluid may be observed exuding from the nostrils and copious amounts
of fluid may be present in the body cavity (Kellogg et aI., 1970; Mackintosh et aI., 2002). The blood is
generally thick and dark, clots poorly, and flows freely from cut surfaces of infected carcasses (Cormack"

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#6431439 - 08/30/16 12:45 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Might consider having a vet perform a necropsy.

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#6431461 - 08/30/16 01:02 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Could be lepto, or anthrax, or other bacteria with the rains we've had. I wouldn't handle the carcasses unless I knew.

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#6431510 - 08/30/16 01:28 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Do you have livestock or have kept livestock in that pen? goats? Horses? Cattle?

There are quite a few variations of worms that have gotten out of control the last few years. The general application dewormer otc from feed-store or medicated feed will not kill. It has been used in such abundance without proper dosage or follow through that there are many resistant strands of worms in the ground that come up with warmth and moisture. From my experience they are fast killers.
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#6431538 - 08/30/16 01:42 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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DEFINITELY call a vet

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#6431555 - 08/30/16 01:57 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Anthrax? Time of year and lots of rain made me think it's a possibility.

"Animals with anthrax, a septicemic disease, may develop edema, hemorrhage, and necrotic lesions
(de Vos, 2003). Sero-sanguinous fluid may be observed exuding from the nostrils and copious amounts
of fluid may be present in the body cavity (Kellogg et aI., 1970; Mackintosh et aI., 2002). The blood is
generally thick and dark, clots poorly, and flows freely from cut surfaces of infected carcasses (Cormack"

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http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2386&context=icwdm_usdanwrc


After seeing the pics this was my first thought. eek

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#6431572 - 08/30/16 02:05 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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The time table was over 2-4 days. Ill reach out to vet, but on a pretty tight budget.


Edited by jorge (08/30/16 02:06 PM)
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#6431583 - 08/30/16 02:12 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Whether you can afford a necropsy or not, please read up on handling and disposal of animals infected with Anthrax. That stuff can kill you, too. Good luck, sir.

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#6431597 - 08/30/16 02:24 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Fortunately, i never handled them. I let him know They are at a friends place. 3 years and not a problem till now smh. gonna bite the bullet after reading up on anthrax, scary stuff.

No goats, cattle, sheep, etc. Only had axis for last year and previously a few other exotics.


Edited by jorge (08/30/16 02:25 PM)
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#6431686 - 08/30/16 03:12 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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Anthrax doesn't typically show up on the eastern half of the state but it's such a dangerous disease you shouldn't take any chances.

If I was betting with what information you provided I'd say it was more likely EHD. Episodic hemohragic disease.

Or worms.


Edited by therancher (08/30/16 03:13 PM)
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#6431734 - 08/30/16 03:53 PM Re: My axis had a Mysterious death. [Re: jorge]
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With lack of red blood, in a pen and wet conditions I would think worms. Get a stool sample and take it to the vet. Just cost a few bucks to get an opinion.
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