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hunting license - buying a shotgun
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08/15/16 05:39 PM
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Nas
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Hello everyone, I'm an international student on F1 visa. I'm trying to buy a shotgun to continue my training in shooting ranges for upcoming competitions. I did my hunting safety course and I believe I also need a hunting license to be able to buy a gun. So my question is, Can I buy a shotgun being on F1 visa? I've been reading and researching a lot but couldn't find a clear answer. Can I get a hunting license if I don't have a SSN?
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/15/16 05:59 PM
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Hunt Dog
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You do NOT need a hunting license to purchase a weapon of any kind.
Your Visa status and home country may be bigger issues. Even though you may be able to buy a weapon, some vendors might chose not to sell to you.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/15/16 06:44 PM
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hook_n_line
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I had a client come in from out of the country, we were able to get him a fishing license with his passport number. We didn't try for the hunting license but I'm sure he could have gotten it too. As far as buying a firearm, I could not tell you if it's even possible for you to purchase one.
Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/15/16 06:59 PM
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Curtis
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Why don't you just call Texas Parks and Wildlife or your local law enforcement office and ask them what you need?
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
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08/15/16 07:21 PM
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Why don't you just call Texas Parks and Wildlife or your local law enforcement office and ask them what you need? The Hunting License is a State issue. A foreign national purchasing a firearm probably has overlapping State and Federal issues. Tread lightly my friend.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/15/16 07:31 PM
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I don't think he can buy a gun....
Read the 4473 specifically definition provided in 11.1b
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/15/16 09:14 PM
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Nas
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This is what I found: So I guess the only exception I could probably fall within is the first one which needs a hunting license.
Question 12 on ATF Form 4473 An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is not prohibited from purchasing, receiving, or possessing a firearm if the alien falls within one of the following exceptions: (1) is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued by the Federal Government, a State, or local government, or an Indian tribe federally recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is valid and unexpired; (2) was admitted to the United States for lawful hunting or sporting purposes; (3) has received a waiver from the prohibition from the Attorney General of the United States; (4) is an official representative of a foreign government who is accredited to the United States Government or the Government’s mission to an international organization having its headquarters in the United States; (5) is en route to or from another country to which that alien is accredited; (6) is an official of a foreign government or a distinguished foreign visitor who has been so designated by the Department of State; or (7) is a foreign law enforcement officer of a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
#6411155
08/16/16 08:37 PM
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YanceyTX_Hunter
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This is directly from the TWPD license website... so you don't have a social but do you have one of those other criteria? Sorry should have explained this is what you would need to get a hunting license... so it seems if you were able to get that then you would fit under category number 1
Last edited by YanceyTX_Hunter; 08/16/16 08:38 PM. Reason: clarify
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/17/16 08:20 PM
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had this come up with a girl in the office trying to by a hand gun here on a work visa, was told to go buy a hunting license
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/18/16 09:07 PM
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I don't believe that you can buy a gun in the US on a student visa, which is a temporary visa. You can buy a gun in the US as a gal alien if you are here on a long term visa and have established a permanent resident Ina state and can supply the necessary documentation such as six months utility bills, state drivers license or official ID orUS military ID.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/19/16 04:21 AM
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Nas
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Hmmm Im gonna try to get a hunting license and try to by a shotgun and see how it goes. Thank's everyone and will let you informed if they let buy one or not
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/19/16 12:23 PM
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I'm surprised that Question 12 subpart #5 is allowed. The hunting license loophole seems mighty ambiguous to me. Interested in how you are handled.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/19/16 01:48 PM
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I wonder if the op will post an update to their conumdrum? Sounds more like a baited question, instead of anything legit. Otherwise, wouldn't they just call the experts for their answers?
Last edited by talkturkey; 08/19/16 01:48 PM.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
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08/20/16 07:47 PM
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dune2218
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do what the gang bangers do ---------- go to a gun show.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/21/16 02:55 PM
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You can buy from a non FFL.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: Nas]
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08/21/16 02:59 PM
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You do NOT need a hunting license to purchase a weapon of any kind. Incorrect, most do need a hunting license per ATF You WILL likely need to purchase a hunting license first, I have a friend in a similar situation and a hunting license is needed if you are on certain visa(perm) types.
Last edited by glocker17; 08/21/16 03:02 PM.
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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun
[Re: dune2218]
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08/22/16 02:53 PM
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StretchR
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do what the gang bangers do ---------- go to a gun show. Remember, FFL dealers still have to do background checks even at gunshows. The only non-background check is from individual to individual... and that doesn't have to be at a gun show, can be through any means of contact. On the original question, it looks like a personal sale would be prohibited to a non-resident: From the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms (ATF) website, "Frequently asked Questions" (link below quote) 2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?
Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5). https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download
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