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#6414269 - 08/18/16 12:04 PM When starting with new virgin brass.
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It is time to open a new batch of brass for my creedmoor.

My questions are this.

1. What will need to be done on hornady brass (same as other Size, trim load)
2. stick with my current load or try new load work up.
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#6414315 - 08/18/16 12:38 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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The long range guys might have more valuable opinions, but these days I'll run new brass through a Lee Collet Die (to reduce runout) and then trim it with my RCBS trim pro with the 3 cut head. And normally I buy only Norma and Lapua these days.

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#6414364 - 08/18/16 01:04 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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I do the same thing with the collet die because new brass often has dented or out of round mouths. I don't trim until after the first firing, though. The length will change slightly when fireforming.
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#6414376 - 08/18/16 01:10 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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Winchester, Remington, Federal, Hornady I run them through a FL sizer, which tends to to not touch the shoulder, only rounds the neck.

Trim, chamfer, debur, debur the flash hole.

Nosler, Norma, Lapua brass I'd just load them.
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#6414491 - 08/18/16 02:32 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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Sorry to hijack your thread, thought this may be a good question in relation to this post. What would be the difference between the collet die and Redding Type S and Competition dies?

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#6414598 - 08/18/16 04:12 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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Collet die is fixed while the s die uses a bushing allowing the user to regulate neck tension.
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#6414613 - 08/18/16 04:23 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Winchester, Remington, Federal, Hornady I run them through a FL sizer, which tends to to not touch the shoulder, only rounds the neck.

Trim, chamfer, debur, debur the flash hole.

Nosler, Norma, Lapua brass I'd just load them.


I received some Nosler brass just the other day that had distorted mouths. Not many, but a few of them would have made problems. I think it was .280, but could have been .30-06.
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#6414799 - 08/18/16 06:25 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: RiverRider]
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That means I'll be having to at least neck size Nosler the next time I open a box. Just can't count on anything anymore, but death and taxes.
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#6414802 - 08/18/16 06:26 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
Collet die is fixed while the s die uses a bushing allowing the user to regulate neck tension.


What I use for almost everything now. Think .22-250 is the only one that's not a bushing die.
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#6414835 - 08/18/16 06:41 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
That means I'll be having to at least neck size Nosler the next time I open a box. Just can't count on anything anymore, but death and taxes.



Well hold on a minute...I guess I should mention it was bulk brass that I bought, a couple of bags of 100 each. I think I bought it from Graf's, but I'm not sure due to chronic CRS. I've never actually bought a box of Nosler brass so I don't even know how it's packed.
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#6414837 - 08/18/16 06:43 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: RiverRider]
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It's packed pretty carefully to prevent distortion.
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#6415061 - 08/18/16 08:59 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: dee
Collet die is fixed while the s die uses a bushing allowing the user to regulate neck tension.


What I use for almost everything now. Think .22-250 is the only one that's not a bushing die.


Same here. I'm gradually converting all my dies to s series.
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#6415121 - 08/18/16 09:44 PM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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I always run my new brass through a sizing die, just to round the case mouth and provide equal neck tension. Regardless of the manufacturer, there will always be at least a few pieces that are out of round enough to cause me headaches when I chamfer on a powered unit.

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#6415514 - 08/19/16 08:18 AM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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Am I safe to assume my old load same brand of brass should be good to go?
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#6415705 - 08/19/16 10:47 AM Re: When starting with new virgin brass. [Re: Big A]
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Not a guarantee. Of same brand and type chances are yes though.
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