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#6413058 - 08/17/16 05:36 PM Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why?
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As of late i have mainly been loading secant ogive projectiles. Imo they seem to give me better 5 shot groups. 3 shot groups there is little difference. Especially in a 1-8" 220 swift and 1-8" 260 rem. Havent even tried the hybrids yet because im pleased with the results.


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#6413368 - 08/17/16 08:26 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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I think I know why "[censored]" showed up there.

rofl
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#6413405 - 08/17/16 08:46 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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Tangent seem to be less picky about relation to the lands, so I appreciate that when a barrel was chambered with some free-bore.

Once I finally shoot up my A-Maxes I'll switch over to the Berger hybrid in the 6.5 Creedmoor. But the 7 Rem Mag is tuned for the 180 VLD Hunting, so I'll just stick with it.
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#6413444 - 08/17/16 08:59 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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The hybrids are less sensitive in distance to the lands and so far seem to have large sweet spots on the ones I have tried. They are more like the Secant ogive bullets in that respect with a little better BC than the standard VLDs.

Unless the loads are for extended range I like Secant bullets. The Tangent in most instances have a higher BC.
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#6413448 - 08/17/16 09:00 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
I think I know why "[censored]" showed up there.

rofl


That I and O are just too close together on the keyboard. bang

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#6413493 - 08/17/16 09:21 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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Lol yep didnt even catch that. I do all my thf'in on the phone.
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#6413665 - 08/17/16 10:38 PM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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Actually, tangent ogive bullets are your more common plain jane bullets. The Secant bullets are the VLD type with the more aggressive ogive that is more sensitive to seating depth.

A typical tangent ogive bullet would be like a 168 grain Sierra Matchking. It has a nice rounded edge at the ogive that rounds into the bearing surface from the front nose of the bullet. These are also your more common hunting bullets. If I get a rifle that is having issues shooting, I will switch to a tangent ogive bullet to help tighten up the groups some, or if I need to seat the bullet deep in the case to fit in a magazine.

A Secant ogive bullet would be like a Berger VLD design, where the ogive makes a more abrupt corner at the ogive of the bullet. These are the bullets that are more sensitive to seating depth. (How I remember this is, the S in secant and the S in straight. The front angle of the bullet goes straight into the bearing surface with no smooth transition.)

I prefer Secant, or VLD designs, since I like the higher BC. But I'll make a tangent ogive bullet shoot good, too. It just depends on my application.
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#6413746 - 08/18/16 05:34 AM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: ChadTRG42]
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#6413805 - 08/18/16 06:52 AM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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I prefer secant personally, but I also like big heavy high BC bullets.

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#6413900 - 08/18/16 08:09 AM Re: Secant or Tangent what do you prefer and why? [Re: jorge]
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Application dependant but tangent takes less work which means more range time. When in a hybrid the bc is typically higher too which is a best of both worlds. The Hornady advertise as a secant but load more like a tangent in my experience.
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