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#6404922 - 08/12/16 09:42 AM Where do you zero your rifle?
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Registered: 02/15/09
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Loc: Southern Oklahoma
I took a few friends shooting and for a couple of them it was their first time shooting farther than a couple hundred yards. So we had to chronograph their rifle/ammunition combinations and verify their zeroes. I was a little surprised that every shooter that day zeroed their rifle differently. One was at 200 yds., another at 100 yds., one at 150 yds., one at 168 yds and one at 250 yards. Each person had a reason for why they zeroed at that yardage that made sense to them and should work for how they expected to hunt.

So I am curious how and why shooters/hunters determine what yardage to zero their rifle.
Setting Zero For Your Rifle
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100 yards - 52 (57%)
200 yards - 19 (21%)
Maximum Point Blank Range - 11 (12%)
Distance from Hunting Blind to Feeder - 1 (01%)
Other - 8 (9%)
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#6404975 - 08/12/16 09:55 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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This is an important topic before hunting season. ALL of my rifles are zero'd at 100 yards. Why- it's the easiest to sight in at any range, easiest to calculate drop and come-ups from and is LEAST effected by environmental conditions. For a basic hunting rifle, a 200 yard zero will also work, since 99% of rifles will print 1" to 1.75" high at 100 yards from a 200 yard zero. You can still easily calculate and dial from a 200 yard zero.

But, the folks that zero their rifle at the weird off distances, they are using a form of MPBR and induce some error and guess work on where their bullet will impact. This mentality is "it's close enough". Anytime you induce this, you increase the likely hood of missing your target. I'm not a fan of this. From a simple 100 yard zero, you can calculate easily with near 100% certainty EXACTLY where the bullet will be at any distance. Sure, you can calculate a 168 or 250 yard zero, but it complicates your calculations. It also leaves the hunter estimating the drop in inches at a certain distance (that could also be questionable) that is often difficult to figure out these inches on a deer in the field. I'm not a fan of MPBR and zeroing in on an off or odd distance. It induces too much error or guess work for a miss.
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#6404992 - 08/12/16 10:03 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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#6404994 - 08/12/16 10:04 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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100. Everything is up from there.
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#6405017 - 08/12/16 10:15 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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22 1/2 feet
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#6405064 - 08/12/16 10:39 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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I don't dial. I don't shoot past 400 yards (350 in actual practice so far on game).

A 3" high zero at 100 yards has me basically on at 200, 6" low at 300, and 18" low at 400 with the loads in my .300 WSM, .300 Win mag, .270 WSM and .270 Win. (It's not exact, of course, on all the rifles - but it's close, very close).
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#6405083 - 08/12/16 10:49 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
A 3" high zero at 100 yards has me basically on at 200, 6" low at 300, and 18" low at 400 with the loads in my .300 WSM, .300 Win mag, .270 WSM and .270 Win. (It's not exact, of course, on all the rifles - but it's close, very close).


basically, not exact, it's close- that's my point. It's a semi calculated guess (which is often not correct). If you are 3" high at 100 yards, you will NOT be on at 200 yards with the calibers you listed! And you will not be 6" low at 300. This is why a lot of shooters miss, is because they "think" it's what it will be.

I'm not picking on you, NP. I'm just saying that majority of hunters that use a form of MPBR have a lot of error into their holds.
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#6405086 - 08/12/16 10:50 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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100 yards.

I'm always coming up never down, and I have no wind error from a farther zero. I do see the utility in zeroing a duplex reticle at 150 or 200 yards. There is also the trick of zeroing a duplex at 100 but at the end of the 12 o'clock post. You'll get five points of hold. Top post, halfway to center, center halfway to the bottom post, bottom post. Shoot those holds at distance to find out what is what.
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#6405131 - 08/12/16 11:03 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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Depends on what I'm shooting. With over 40 rifles/handguns no one setup works on all. Most of my fast calibers are zero at 200 and checked at 100,300,400. Something like my 45-70 or 44 mag will zero at 100, don't shoot much past that with them so don't care where they are at 200. 44-40 iron sights semi close at 50 yards (good as I can see.

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#6405184 - 08/12/16 11:24 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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100 yards.

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#6405226 - 08/12/16 11:43 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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NP, are you loading yours really slow?

A standard Hornady 130 gr. GMX Superformance when zeroed +3" at 100, will be +3.6" at 200, dead on at 295, and -9.5 at 400.
this is using the calculator on their site. That's a big difference.

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#6405232 - 08/12/16 11:45 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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Registered: 09/30/04
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Loc: Parker,Tx
Hunting rifles 200 yards.
Target rifles 100 yards.

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#6405257 - 08/12/16 11:58 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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#6405258 - 08/12/16 11:59 AM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Normanpig]
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Originally Posted By: Normanpig
22 1/2 feet


Joking I did catch 2 guys on my lease doing this..... I asked them to explained it to me. (One is a veterinarian and one is a pharmaceutical engineer.... I'm a construction sales guy) Their response made zero since and we then set up a target at 100 yards.
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#6405276 - 08/12/16 12:07 PM Re: Where do you zero your rifle? [Re: Ritter]
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For most rifles and scopes I use the standard 100 yd zero but for red dots and the Vortex Strike Eagles I use a 50 yd zero. Works great for me.
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