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#6402201 - 08/10/16 12:59 PM Best Scope. Under 400$
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Would like ideas. On best Scope for under 400$. Will put emphasis in low-light conditions.
Thank you for any advice.


Edited by Bittercreek (08/10/16 01:00 PM)

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#6402231 - 08/10/16 01:17 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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The nikon pro staff scopes are hard to beat for the money when buying new
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#6402313 - 08/10/16 02:05 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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There are several scopes better than the Prostaff in low light for under $400.00. Which one the OP purchases should be dependent on his eyes - which he sees better out of.

The best in low light for MY eyes is easily the MeoPro 3.5-10x44. Also good is a Conquest, VX-3, Fullfield II, and Bushnell Elite 3500.
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#6402972 - 08/10/16 08:48 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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The base 3-9x40 Conquest from EuroOptic for $329 is very nice. I also agree that the Meopta MeoPro scopes are exceptional. If you were in Dallas, I could point you to a very good local deal in your price range, but I see that's some distance away from you.
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#6402988 - 08/10/16 08:54 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Any heard, or looked thru. Zeiss-Tierras/
Heard bad and good.

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#6402998 - 08/10/16 09:03 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Well if low light is important the terra is really awful

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#6403104 - 08/10/16 10:30 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Vortex Viper HS 4-16 x44 was $399.99 in most recent cabelas ad. When I'm looking for a new optic I hit Optics Planet, Midway USA and Camera Land sites. Sign up for alerts on all and the offers start rolling in within a week or so.

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#6403152 - 08/10/16 10:58 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Vortex scopes are about the worst in low light for my eyes, until you get to the Razor.
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#6403222 - 08/11/16 01:18 AM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Fixed power SWFA SS scopes
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#6403510 - 08/11/16 10:23 AM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Zeiss Conguest

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#6403522 - 08/11/16 10:30 AM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Zeiss Conquest or Leupold VX 2 or maybe even 3i (which I think can be had in 2.5-8x for under $400 now).
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#6404089 - 08/11/16 05:25 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Zeiss Conquest or Leupold VX 2 or maybe even 3i (which I think can be had in 2.5-8x for under $400 now).


This too though I believe the MeoPro is better in low light. I do own a Conquest, VX-2 and VX-3 and have compared. I also can't tell a difference in VX-3 and 3i glass.
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#6404201 - 08/11/16 06:39 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: booradley]
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Meopta 3.5 x10x44mm . Doug's Camera Land $349. Super clear and bright .

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#6404215 - 08/11/16 06:48 PM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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Meopta

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#6404594 - 08/12/16 12:54 AM Re: Best Scope. Under 400$ [Re: Bittercreek]
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To the OP. I've stated this so many times I know I sound like a broken record but the fact remains that:
There are only four or five lens makers globally. There is only one company I know of that grinds there own glass, there may be more. Vortex and Leupold(as an example) could be purchasing some of their glass from the same place.

Where I believe most of the differences come in are the quality(cost) of the glass and the coatings each company puts or has put on their lens.

That is why NO one can tell you what the best scope under $400.00 is for YOU. That is why you get so many opinions. I've looked through a lot of scopes in the last couple of years. I've looked through all of the scopes mentioned in this thread except for the SWFA line. Some of them I couldn't really tell a difference, for example a Vortex Diamondback and a Burris Fullfield II. That was in optimal lighting. When taken outside in low light then the Burris jumped out at me as being better. You may see better through Zeiss glass than Meopta, or Leupold than Zeiss. You need to find a store with a good selection of scopes and look through all of them. One or a couple will stand out over the others.

Other than mechanical quality, such as turret adjustment repeatability, I just don't see how one person can tell another which scope is better.

There are compromises too. I don't believe Nightforce has the best glass in its price range but I do believe they are about as tough as you can get. If my life was dependent on my scope, I would get a Nightforce. I believe Leupold focuses more on glass quality in most of their scope lines. All I need is for the adjustments to work well enough for me to sight a rifle in at 100 yards, that's it. So Leupold works well for me. If I did the type of shooting JGFIREMAN does then I probably wouldn't be using Leupold and would sacrifice some glass clarity for features and repeatability.


Edited by booradley (08/12/16 01:08 AM)
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