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#6400891 - 08/09/16 04:48 PM Attracting ducks with gravel
dockhigh Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 06/22/13
Posts: 12
Had and old Outfitter from Louisiana tell me today that the secret 2 attracting ducks legally is to put a load gravel or coarse sand into your pond. Is this something anybody has ever tried. I know I have shot hundreds of ducks in gravel pits over the years so it kind of makes sense.

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#6400904 - 08/09/16 04:56 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
dockhigh Offline
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Registered: 06/22/13
Posts: 12
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#6401380 - 08/09/16 09:58 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
Greekangler Offline
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Registered: 09/05/04
Posts: 1497
Loc: North Tejas
Few hundred pounds of corn works much better
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#6401441 - 08/09/16 10:27 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
woodduckhunter Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 04/25/11
Posts: 212
have shot a lot of specks and snows in a gravel pit with no water in Louisiana, found white creek bed type sand in the gizzard of a lot of woodducks, a lot of small pebbles in other ducks. have also drove up on 200+ mallards lined up on a gravel road in north Dakota not anywhere close to a feeding field or water(only thing I can think of that theyd be doing). would it work? maybe. for what it would cost and what not, why not just grow grain?

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#6401443 - 08/09/16 10:28 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
woodduckhunter Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 04/25/11
Posts: 212
birds do have to have "grit" or small rocks in their gizzard to digest food, but it can be found too easy in MOST places for them to be that attracted to it IMO

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#6401915 - 08/10/16 10:24 AM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
Boudreaux Offline
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Registered: 11/17/09
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Loc: Bryan/College Station
Be careful how you place the gravel for waterfowl. It can be considered as baiting depending on how it is set.

For instance, there is a piece of property that I hunted a lot when I was younger. It has a flooded gravel pad that was placed there to draw in ducks and geese. They came in there every year. Per the GW, we were not allowed to hunt within a certain distance of the pit because it was considered baiting. But, it was strategically placed so that the birds would fly from the roost to the pit and give the hunters the best shot.
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#6401970 - 08/10/16 10:50 AM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
dune2218 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/16
Posts: 246
Loc: Temple, tx
I tried that same theory on dove,, since they were always on the road eating gravel, spent $500 on 2 trucks loads of gravel --------------------- it was a great theory, but it didnt work,,,,, they are still on the road, but not on the gravel I put down. beats me.
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#6401984 - 08/10/16 10:57 AM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: Boudreaux]
mattyg06 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 04/22/14
Posts: 430
Originally Posted By: Boudreaux
Be careful how you place the gravel for waterfowl. It can be considered as baiting depending on how it is set.

For instance, there is a piece of property that I hunted a lot when I was younger. It has a flooded gravel pad that was placed there to draw in ducks and geese. They came in there every year. Per the GW, we were not allowed to hunt within a certain distance of the pit because it was considered baiting. But, it was strategically placed so that the birds would fly from the roost to the pit and give the hunters the best shot.


I would have to hear this one from a GW personally or see something official in writing. I have a hard time believing gravel is considered 'feed'.

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#6402104 - 08/10/16 12:04 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: mattyg06]
kweber Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 09/03/15
Posts: 196
grit/gravel, etc is right there under baiting rules....
maybe harder to prove, but still considered baiting.

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#6402174 - 08/10/16 12:39 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: kweber]
jeh7mmmag Offline
gramps

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 12624
Loc: Colleyville, DFW, TX
Originally Posted By: kweber
grit/gravel, etc is right there under baiting rules....
maybe harder to prove, but still considered baiting.


Along with salt up
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#6402197 - 08/10/16 12:56 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
mattyg06 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 04/22/14
Posts: 430
I stand corrected. I actually just by coincidence ate with a game warden and asked him. He said yes gravel is considered bait. But I looked again at the definition on the TPWD and it refers to salt but I didn't see anywhere it says grit/gravel


Bait
Salt, grain or other feed, directly or indirectly placed, exposed, deposited, distributed or scattered, that could serve as a lure or attraction for migratory game birds to, on or over any areas where hunters are attempting to take them.

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#6402204 - 08/10/16 01:01 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: dockhigh]
woodduckhunter Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 04/25/11
Posts: 212
I've never heard of anyone getting ticket for anything ridiculous pertaining to gravel/grit. pretty difficult one to prove, especially since all birds have to gave grit or pebbles in their gizzard to digest food and live. Not like busting a craw open and finding hen scratch in one. And for the time being, here in the United States, we are still innocent until PROVEN beyond doubt that you are guilty.

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#6402723 - 08/10/16 05:57 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: woodduckhunter]
kweber Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 09/03/15
Posts: 196
key word is "attraction"...
and Fed GWs, US Fish and Wildlife guys are probably not your friends when you meet them in the field.

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#6402866 - 08/10/16 07:41 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: kweber]
Sniper John Offline

gumshoe

Registered: 08/31/05
Posts: 16292
Loc: North Texas
See page 4, first paragraph. https://www.fws.gov/le/pdf/waterfowl-hunting-and-baiting.pdf

Problem Areas
Feeding Waterfowl and Other Wildlife
Many people feed waterfowl for the pleasure of bird watching. It is illegal to hunt waterfowl in an area where such feeding has occurred that could lure or attract migratory game birds to, on, or over any area where hunters are attempting to take them. The 10-day rule applies to such areas, and any salt, grain, or feed must be gone 10 days before hunting. The use of sand and shell grit is not prohibited.

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#6402909 - 08/10/16 08:05 PM Re: Attracting ducks with gravel [Re: Sniper John]
kweber Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 09/03/15
Posts: 196
SJ, hey go for it...
we've had the Fed guys roll up and they treated us like Crips and Bloods...
we don't need that drama...
USFW are not hunter friendly....

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