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#6395013 - 08/04/16 05:35 PM Bucks getting cheaper?
don k Offline
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Is it only me or does it seem like the price of individual Bucks are getting less expensive? Is it the concern with CWD, the price, to many pen raised Bucks hitting the market, not enough people willing to pay the price or maybe people just want an ordinary looking WT Buck Deer?
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#6395018 - 08/04/16 05:38 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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Hope it plummets....better sell before TPWD shuts em down
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#6395050 - 08/04/16 05:56 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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Don't forget the impact the price of oil has had. I have no research to back my opinion up, but it seems like I hear the same thing is happening with lease prices.

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#6395266 - 08/04/16 08:57 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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I think people are getting smarter. They would rather pay to kill a low fence 150-180 than some genetic monster due to criticism from other hunters and friends. Nobody really give a hoot if you go pay 15K to kill a genetic monster bc they discredit it due to the circumstances.


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#6395270 - 08/04/16 08:58 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: SapperTitan]
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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I the no people are getting smarter. They would rather pay to kill a low fence 150-180 than some genetic monster due to criticism from other hunters and friends. Nobody really give a hoot if you go pay 15K to kill a genetic monster bc they discredit it due to the circumstances.


Imo a ranch born 180" deer is a ranch born 180" deer

Couldnt care less if it's killed on a 600 acre hf place or a 600 acre low fence ranch

What's the difference is both of them are shot under feeders anyway?
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#6395341 - 08/04/16 09:53 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I the no people are getting smarter. They would rather pay to kill a low fence 150-180 than some genetic monster due to criticism from other hunters and friends. Nobody really give a hoot if you go pay 15K to kill a genetic monster bc they discredit it due to the circumstances.


Imo a ranch born 180" deer is a ranch born 180" deer

Couldnt care less if it's killed on a 600 acre hf place or a 600 acre low fence ranch

What's the difference is both of them are shot under feeders anyway?
my point is the first question people ask now when someone kills a giant is (was it HF?) I think people are just getting to the point they don't want the stigma attached to it. Personally I don't care what people do I'm for the hunter being happy HF, LF, feeders, plots idk.
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#6395407 - 08/04/16 11:23 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I the no people are getting smarter. They would rather pay to kill a low fence 150-180 than some genetic monster due to criticism from other hunters and friends. Nobody really give a hoot if you go pay 15K to kill a genetic monster bc they discredit it due to the circumstances.


Imo a ranch born 180" deer is a ranch born 180" deer

Couldnt care less if it's killed on a 600 acre hf place or a 600 acre low fence ranch

What's the difference is both of them are shot under feeders anyway?


I agree if both are grown naturally. But generally a high fence hunting operation is going to be feeding a very specific expensive diet to their deer to grow them as big as possible. Where as the guy on the other place is likely just putting out some corn as an attractant.
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#6395499 - 08/05/16 06:43 AM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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Supply and demand will alway be the deciding factor. I have noticed Don that prices for individual bucks have declined.
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#6395656 - 08/05/16 09:15 AM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: Big_Ag]
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Originally Posted By: Big_Ag
Don't forget the impact the price of oil has had. I have no research to back my opinion up, but it seems like I hear the same thing is happening with lease prices.


supply and demmand...Lots of folks where rolling around with spare change there for a while not so much right now. The whole deer market is obscure anyhow. It's a chicken and egg type of deal kinda like the oil business.
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#6395661 - 08/05/16 09:18 AM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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I could see it being everything mentioned above.
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#6395663 - 08/05/16 09:20 AM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I the no people are getting smarter. They would rather pay to kill a low fence 150-180 than some genetic monster due to criticism from other hunters and friends. Nobody really give a hoot if you go pay 15K to kill a genetic monster bc they discredit it due to the circumstances.


Imo a ranch born 180" deer is a ranch born 180" deer

Couldnt care less if it's killed on a 600 acre hf place or a 600 acre low fence ranch

What's the difference is both of them are shot under feeders anyway?



I agree if both are grown naturally. But generally a high fence hunting operation is going to be feeding a very specific expensive diet to their deer to grow them as big as possible. Where as the guy on the other place is likely just putting out some corn as an attractant.



Those low fence ranches thst consistently produce Boone and Crockett class deer feed plenty of protein, trust me
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#6395672 - 08/05/16 09:25 AM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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I have nothing against HF ranches, their owners, or hunting on them, but a big buck off a LF place is not the same as one off a HF place TO ME and I believe others as well. Its taken us 9 years to get into the 150 B&C range on our 320 acre LF place. If it was HF there is no doubt in my mind we would have been there in 1/2 that time or less.
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#6395962 - 08/05/16 02:14 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
I have nothing against HF ranches, their owners, or hunting on them, but a big buck off a LF place is not the same as one off a HF place TO ME and I believe others as well. Its taken us 9 years to get into the 150 B&C range on our 320 acre LF place. If it was HF there is no doubt in my mind we would have been there in 1/2 that time or less.


Maybe, maybe not. A lot has to depend on the genetics.

A high fence doesent automatically guarantee big deer.


The biggest thing a high fence controls is your neighbors shooting deer and somewhat controls your predator influx.

I know guys with decent sized hf places that are not managed well and they can't break 150" easily. I know places that have poor native genetics that have issues with it as well.

I know guys that hunt no pressure low fence places with non-hunting neighbors that break 150" every year. I sold 475 acres down in big wells that bordered a 6k acre place that was lightly hunted, guy shot a 165" on it last year and passed numerous 140's and 150's and the two years prior he owned it. Low fence country

There is a lot of country that is not hunted, it's not unheard of to have big, low fence neighbors that don't hunt
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#6396132 - 08/05/16 04:59 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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Prices definitely coming WAY down on those that haven't been doing the testing. Does well under $1000 now and bucks definitely down.

I think we will really start to see a premium on quality low fence deer and some severe pressure on the genetically manipulated.

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#6396143 - 08/05/16 05:07 PM Re: Bucks getting cheaper? [Re: don k]
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Price is dictated by whatever the market will bear. Everyone in this thread makes good points.

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