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#6390647 - 08/01/16 03:24 PM Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false?
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I have always heard once a soike always a spike shoot it... But have recently tead where it is possible the following year they can start to actually grow normal... What is the truth behind this?

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#6390649 - 08/01/16 03:26 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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#6390650 - 08/01/16 03:27 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: oldoak2000]
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Originally Posted By: oldoak2000
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#6390651 - 08/01/16 03:27 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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#6390652 - 08/01/16 03:27 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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Not touching that. Even with a 10 foot spiked antler
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#6390654 - 08/01/16 03:28 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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The simple and broad statement is simply not true. Anyone who says or thinks that obviously has little or no experience with whitetails.

Now, whether spikes overall are inferior over their lifetimes compared to non-spikes is a subject of heated debate.
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#6390661 - 08/01/16 03:41 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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Oh crap, here we go again.
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#6390668 - 08/01/16 03:48 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: poisonivie]
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definitely not 'always'

And most of the current research I've seen says they "catch up", or at least almost catch up with their contempories after several years

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#6390670 - 08/01/16 03:52 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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I don't think anyone knows for sure.

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#6390671 - 08/01/16 03:53 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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I've never heard of spikes catching up with their age class out in the real world. I'll give you that perhaps 10% could, but that still means that 90% are inferior all their life.
Pass the popcorn please!


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#6390672 - 08/01/16 03:53 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
The simple and broad statement is simply not true. Anyone who says or thinks that obviously has little or no experience with whitetails.

Now, whether spikes overall are inferior over their lifetimes compared to non-spikes is a subject of heated debate.



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#6390674 - 08/01/16 03:54 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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id say more often than not they grow more
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#6390700 - 08/01/16 04:10 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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per twpd publication--Our answer to callers is that if they want to improve the overall antler development of their herd, then they should harvest spikes. We often say something like,
“If two spikes walk out in front of you in a 2-buck county, shoot the smallest one first and don’t let the second one get away.”
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#6390711 - 08/01/16 04:21 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: Mr. T.]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
I've never heard of spikes catching up with their age class out in the real world.


A study conducted by Dr. James Kroll on free-ranging deer in south Texas also found that spike bucks could indeed blossom into high-quality bucks. In fact, over the course of the 10-year study Kroll and his assistants captured and tagged over 2,000 yearling and fawn bucks and measured antler growth at various ages. They found no difference in antler size at 4 ½ years among all the bucks recaptured in the study.

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#6390718 - 08/01/16 04:25 PM Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? True or false? [Re: WestTexasGolfer]
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Not sure where that came from.

In one, researchers at the Texas Parks and Wildlife’s Kerr Management Area research facility determined that spike bucks are indeed inferior to branch-antlered yearlings. It found spike deer, in both captive and wild population samples, have lower body weights on average and grow smaller antlers at older ages. One study determined that yearling spikes had an average of 6.4 points on their antlers at 4 ½-years of age while yearlings that had six points produced racks with an average of 10.1 points when they reached 4 ½.

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