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Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 04:39 AM
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Sitting here tonight I was thinking since I have another blind and feeder as of today I now have set my wife up with her own spot. From her new blind to the feeder itself she is exactly 140 yards!!! 150yards to the back of the feeder pen and 130yards to the front. She shoots a 25-06 interlock 117grain through a 24 inch barrel I'm questioning what should I sight her rifle in at? The reason I ask is This bullet shoots flat out to around 200yds Seeing that she needs to reach out to 120-150?yards what would you sight her scope In at? Her blind is elevated 10ft up. Her ballistics are below Muzzle. 100yds 200yds. 300yds 2990fps. +1.6 0.0 -7.0 Below is a picture of the feeder and pen I set her up with today. I need to round the front edges off as I got a little flat with the front sides ( I'm blaming 100 degree heat ) then slap on the hog panels. I think I set her up good. Elevated blind , feeder with the timer and a hand remote to throw corn when you want. Now my 5 year old son and I can enjoy our time while momma has her fun. So what would y'all sight in her rifle at with those distances and those ballistics ???
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 04:58 AM
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This is not the scientific answer, as it's 11.45 on a Friday night. But you would be fine with a 100 yd zero. If it's 150, correct slightly high. Or, zero 1-1.5" high at 100 and call it good. Without knowing the BC of your bullet and atmospherics, there's no sure way to establish a better estimate as to true ballistics.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 11:50 AM
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.59 inches high at 100 yards would hit a bullseye at 150 yards.
But you might also consider a setting of 1.5 inches high at 100 yards, which would create a 200 yard zero. She could safely reach the kill zone out to 250 yards with no need for hold over, since the drop would be just 2.6 inches low at that distance, given a high shoulder aim to the vitals. The drop at 250 yards with a 150 yard zero would be almost five inches, which would require hold over.
I have my 25-06 set to hit an inch high at 100 yards.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 01:43 PM
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Put dead on at 150. That's were the feeder is and most likely where 90% of all shots will be taken.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 02:42 PM
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Thank you for your responses. I didn't know with it shooting so flat if it would be better to sight it in for 1 inch high at 100
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 03:53 PM
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In theory, 2" high at 100 yards puts you 2" low at 250, so you can basically just point and shoot at all reasonable ranges. So, that's the theory. In practice, I'd probably just zero at 150 as suggested above, as that really will be where 90% of your shots are taken. With the 150 zero, you're 2" low at 200 and 5" low at 250.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 03:55 PM
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if she's shooting past 100 yards, sight it in at a range past 100 yards. shooting at game animal it needs to be dead on. don't depend on some book or magazine or website and whatever formula for so many clicks up at so and so yards or hold over 1 inch at this many yards. be sure when you're talking about an animal. there are plenty of gun ranges that folks talk about right here that have stations past 100 yards. and for gods sake don't sight at 50 and try to use that like so many do. be sure or don't shoot.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 04:12 PM
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2 inches high at 100. Teach her to aim high shoulder where the neck meets the shoulder.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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she's probably afraid of the kick and will have some excuse why she didnt fire the rifle anyway, so I doubt if it makes any difference.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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That's a very easy problem to fix. My wife is 5'2. She shoots a 30/06 with 180 grain bullets. She has 24 shots and 24 kills with this rifle. Her arm is black and blue after shooting an animal. The secret is that I do all the sighting in for her and that rifle kicks the crap out of me. She never pulls the trigger unless she is shooting at an animal. The tells me she has never felt the rifle kick at all. It's worked for 40 years for us.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 07:19 PM
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If you have someone who is very recoil sensitive get a Lead Sled. After a broken collar bone and 2 shoulder surgeries sighting in from the bench sucks. They also make sighting in a new scope a 2 or 3 shot process at 100 yards. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 09:28 PM
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Thank you for your responses. I didn't know with it shooting so flat if it would be better to sight it in for 1 inch high at 100 "Flat shooter" is a misnomer. There isn't a bullet made that doesn't begin to drop once it leaves the muzzle.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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07/31/16 09:42 PM
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Pretty sure everybody understands that nothing shoots perfectly flat.
If the OP's wife is just going to hunt that one blind, just sight the rifle in to be dead on at that distance. If she'll be hunting other places and distances, I'd sight it in for an inch high at 100.
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08/01/16 03:36 AM
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Pretty sure everybody understands that nothing shoots perfectly flat.
If the OP's wife is just going to hunt that one blind, just sight the rifle in to be dead on at that distance. If she'll be hunting other places and distances, I'd sight it in for an inch high at 100. Thank you for your response !
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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08/01/16 06:00 AM
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Thank you for your responses. I didn't know with it shooting so flat if it would be better to sight it in for 1 inch high at 100 "Flat shooter" is a misnomer. There isn't a bullet made that doesn't begin to drop once it leaves the muzzle. It is also a misnomer to say all bullets drop after they leave the muzzle...a properly sighted weapon will have bullet rise and then fall to hit back at muzzle height at the distance the weapon was sighted in...and then past the "zero" range the bullet continues to fall. Semantics possibly, perhaps a misunderstanding of bullet trajectory. Either way, I am Up way to late to make much fuss about it.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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08/01/16 10:26 AM
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Teach her how and let her decide.'That or sighted the same as yours in case you need to borrow it, trade w/ her or whatever. P_102
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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Thank you for your responses. I didn't know with it shooting so flat if it would be better to sight it in for 1 inch high at 100 "Flat shooter" is a misnomer. There isn't a bullet made that doesn't begin to drop once it leaves the muzzle. It is also a misnomer to say all bullets drop after they leave the muzzle...a properly sighted weapon will have bullet rise and then fall to hit back at muzzle height at the distance the weapon was sighted in...and then past the "zero" range the bullet continues to fall. Semantics possibly, perhaps a misunderstanding of bullet trajectory. Either way, I am Up way to late to make much fuss about it. We have to remember that many beginners read these posts and remain silent. And even those who have been hunting for years, may carry misconceptions and half truths. I'll never forget the time I hunted with a guy who had been hunting deer for years, told me that he had shot at a deer and missed it. When I asked him if he was sure he missed, he replied that he had seen it "run off." When I asked him if he had gone to look for it he said "no". We looked and found the deer a few minutes later. The poor guy had never learned that deer will often run after being hit, and every hunter that he had hunted with before just took his "must have missed" comments for granted. He admitted later that he wasn't sure how many hit deer he may have left in the woods. True story. So if someone takes your discussion down a level, don't take offense. They're probably just trying to help those who are still learning the ropes. After all, how many experienced hunters will actually take the time to review the ballastic characteristics of the loads they shoot.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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A bullet will 'rise' because the barrel is pointed above the line of sight the scope is on. P_102
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A bullet will 'rise' because the barrel is pointed above the line of sight the scope is on. P_102 While teaching Hunter Education, I have run across older teenagers, and even a few adults, who had no idea that sighting in a rifle involved determining the path of a bullet as it travels in an arch. A question taken from a pre-course exam... "When properly aimed at a distant target, how many times will a bullet leave or cross the center axis of the sight when fired from a rifle?
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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Depends, did the shooter hit the target? P_102
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Thank you for your responses. I didn't know with it shooting so flat if it would be better to sight it in for 1 inch high at 100 "Flat shooter" is a misnomer. There isn't a bullet made that doesn't begin to drop once it leaves the muzzle. It is also a misnomer to say all bullets drop after they leave the muzzle...a properly sighted weapon will have bullet rise and then fall to hit back at muzzle height at the distance the weapon was sighted in...and then past the "zero" range the bullet continues to fall. Incorrect. Anywhere the rifle is zeroed, the bullet is beginning below the scope, that is sight offset. We cause what the scope "sees" to where the bullet path is to meet at a determined point in space, the zeroing distance. We cause the scope to move our line of sight to match where the bullet is in space. Any rise above a straight line from the chamber, and therefore muzzle, is caused by the scope, not some miraculous projectile rise from some unknown force. Bullets begin to fall immediately after leaving the barrel. The faster the bullet is moving, the less the fall within a predetermined distance. OP, zero it at 100, or 150, you pick. The error from one to the other is very slight with that cartridge, and distance.
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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It's a matter of the terminology used in describing the shooter's line of sight and the path of a bullet. The diagram at the link below, shows the answer to the question noted earlier, that is, twice. As an example, a .270 bullet that begins its trajectory below the shooter's line of sight, would be roughly 3 inches above it at 150 yards in order to hit a target 250 yards away. Ballistics Basics
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Re: Wife has her own setup now. Question about sighting in her rifle?????
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Its hard to convince people that gravity will cause the projectile to drop towards earth immediately upon leaving the muzzle. Velocity and BC just help determine how far it goes before it returns to earth.
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