Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Shane704, nrcook, Hondo56, NRAman, nhauk
63281 Registered Users
Top Posters
dogcatcher 85038
stxranchman 52203
RWH24 44568
rifleman 44340
bill oxner 43695
BOBO the Clown 43129
BMD 40667
Big Orn 37484
txshntr 35063
SnakeWrangler 32505
facebook
Forum Stats
63281 Members
45 Forums
446330 Topics
6150735 Posts

Max Online: 16728 @ 03/25/12 08:51 AM
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#6377182 - 07/21/16 09:40 AM .308 reduced recoil help
BrentBoedeker Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 385
Loc: VanAlstyne
I've got imr4166, and some Sierra 125 gr hunter bullets. I'm looking for some info/input to get a 308 savage 11 down to a manageable level for a recoil sensitive young lady. I'm thinking we can practice with these, and load some of the nosler ballistic tips that will expand at slower fps for hunting rounds. She has shot mini 30, 223. Just not crazy bout this 308. Thanks!

Top
#6377217 - 07/21/16 10:08 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
Tactical Cowboy Online   content
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 3403
Loc: Snyder
Start with the starting load, which Hodgdon says will run 2800 fps with your powder. Back off a grain or so at a whack. If you start getting big spreads in velocity, you've backed down too far. Find the happy medium between recoil and consistency. If that doesn't work, find a less efficient powder so you still get adequate case fill, but lower velocities.
_________________________
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it

Powder coated cast bullets available. https://www.facebook.com/lazyhbullets/

Top
#6377223 - 07/21/16 10:12 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
ChadTRG42 Online   happy
THF Celebrity

Registered: 09/16/09
Posts: 12175
Loc: Lewisville, TX
That powder should be ok as a reduced load. It's in the burn rate where you want to be. But start high and work down if you plan to go below the listed minimum. I would't go too low.
_________________________

Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
www.DallasReloads.com
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL

Top
#6377254 - 07/21/16 10:31 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
redchevy Online   content
THF Celebrity

Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 27345
Loc: Texas
I would find some H4895, I have had good luck making reduced loads with it. My wife shoot a 110 grain prohunter out of my 270 Winchester using this powder and it has no problems killing deer/hogs within normal rages.
_________________________
It's hell eatin em live

Top
#6377261 - 07/21/16 10:34 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
ccoker Offline
Extreme Tracker

Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3726
I did a 308 reduced load project a few years ago.

http://tacticalgunreview.com/building-a-...308/#more-11869
_________________________
www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat


Top
#6377629 - 07/21/16 02:51 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
BrentBoedeker Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 385
Loc: VanAlstyne
Great info. Thanks!

Top
#6377874 - 07/21/16 05:34 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
ccoker Offline
Extreme Tracker

Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 3726
just read throught it. man, that was a while back
That same 13 year old is now 19 and in college!
_________________________
www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat


Top
#6378068 - 07/21/16 08:18 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
kmon1 Online   content
junior

Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 22540
Loc: Texas
IMR 4895 and Accurate 5744 are both good for reduced loads. Like Chad said though you can probably use the 4166 and work down and get there.

Hodgdon has a reduced load write up on using IMR 4895 on their website.


Edited by kmon1 (07/21/16 08:20 PM)
_________________________
Guidelines / Rules of Conduct
http://www.texashuntingforum.com/rules.htm

RULES for using the TRADING POST
http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbth..._PO#Post6605808

Top
#6378182 - 07/21/16 09:45 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
30378 Offline


Registered: 02/14/09
Posts: 2850
Loc: Deer Park, Tx.
Try 30gr of IMR-4198 with 150gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. Works great for my 9yr old.
_________________________
NRA Patron Life Member - Free men should not be subjected to permits, paperwork and taxation in order to carry a firearm.

Top
#6378240 - 07/21/16 10:48 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
syncerus Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 2611
Loc: Dallas, TX
The 4895 powders are the **go to** powders for reasonable reduced loads. As a general rule, you can go down to 60% of full power loads in a safe manner. In a .308, you're really looking at duplicating .30-30 loads. Don't forget to use fairly soft bullets at those velocities; you may even want to use the round nose .30-30 bullets, assuming ranges under 150 yards.

That said, Chad is the professional. If he says that you're gtg, then follow his suggestions.
_________________________
NRA Endowment & DSC Lifer

Top
#6378264 - 07/21/16 11:17 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
jeffbird Offline


Registered: 03/09/09
Posts: 2694
If you want cream puff target loads use Trail Boss, which is used for sub-sonics. It is shaped liked doughnuts, so it provides good fill with light loads. Literally near zero recoil. I've used Varget with 125's and recoil is mild. Hodgdon publishes reduced loads with H4895. Do not go with cases with low fill or you risk detonation rather than burning.

Top
#6380742 - 07/24/16 11:58 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
strobes Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 10/15/09
Posts: 60
Loc: North Dallas
To avoid "Secondary Explosion Effect" or a "Reduced-Charge Detonation (S.E.E. or R.C.D). you have to have a cartrige X% full of powder, the volume changes with caliber.
You can start development from min velocity too, subsonic. But of course trajectory is completely different.
https://www.loaddata.com/articles/PDF/LD-36%20Haviland%20LR.pdf


Edited by strobes (07/24/16 12:05 PM)

Top
#6380937 - 07/24/16 03:54 PM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
WileyCoyote Online   content
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5404
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
Very interesting article, Thx for posting the link.
Ron
_________________________
Remember Aesops Fables of the "Scorpion & and the Frog's" crossing the river...

... we must hang together, or we will ALL hang seperately, Ben Franklin..

Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it,Santayana

Top
#6381737 - 07/25/16 09:18 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
poisonivie Offline


Registered: 03/10/09
Posts: 7825
Loc: Bridgeport, Tx
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthre...olit-Rifle-Load

Take a look at this thread. Lots of good info.
_________________________
Pee on Photobucket

Top
#6381864 - 07/25/16 10:40 AM Re: .308 reduced recoil help [Re: BrentBoedeker]
blackcoal Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 9201
Loc: 60 Mi North of DFW
We were using Unique back in the 80's. I used to buy open partial boxes of .308 bullets to use shoot light loads in 30-30s, possum, coons, yotes, etc. Both to stay in practice and save money. I never mention it because everyone complains about it being dirty plus it is old and not the newest best powder. Young kids could shoot a winnie 94 and not cross their eyes. Noise was less and didn't upset people or animals.
_________________________
The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,
it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >



© 2004-2016 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide