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#6375320 - 07/19/16 09:03 PM Thermal Optics
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I've been looking at thermal scopes and I am curious what models you guys think are the best and why.
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#6375336 - 07/19/16 09:14 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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ANY thermal is better than nothing
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#6375408 - 07/19/16 10:06 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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It all depends on what your price range is. Got something in mind?
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#6375419 - 07/19/16 10:14 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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I have Flir 2.5x9....Does awesome with hog hunting.....
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#6375458 - 07/19/16 10:32 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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I was actually interested in the above mentioned flir for pigs as well.
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#6375466 - 07/19/16 10:36 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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FLIR is better than nothing...
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#6375671 - 07/20/16 08:16 AM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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the black commercial flir thermosight units are ok but not the best if we're talking their commercial line. Flir government is a whole other thing but you're talking everything north of 10 grand a piece. I'd also recommend having a handheld spotter as well as the scope depending on your style of hunting. For me, I ride around in a ranger and scan field after field rather than sit in a blind. That's really where the thermal advantage is. If you're hunting from a blind then you really don't get the main benefit of thermals. Most any night scope is ok for that. I also use my handhelds about 10 times as much as my rifle scope.

It all really depends on your budget. The best options out there right now are in the 6-8K price range (IR defense, high end armasight 640 units, etc.)

Sensor and lens size are the big factors but display is a factor too. Large OLED displays are very much preferable.
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#6376444 - 07/20/16 05:57 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: MDMORROW]
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I might try out that hand held one day!!!

Originally Posted By: MDMORROW
the black commercial flir thermosight units are ok but not the best if we're talking their commercial line. Flir government is a whole other thing but you're talking everything north of 10 grand a piece. I'd also recommend having a handheld spotter as well as the scope depending on your style of hunting. For me, I ride around in a ranger and scan field after field rather than sit in a blind. That's really where the thermal advantage is. If you're hunting from a blind then you really don't get the main benefit of thermals. Most any night scope is ok for that. I also use my handhelds about 10 times as much as my rifle scope.

It all really depends on your budget. The best options out there right now are in the 6-8K price range (IR defense, high end armasight 640 units, etc.)

Sensor and lens size are the big factors but display is a factor too. Large OLED displays are very much preferable.
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#6376506 - 07/20/16 06:54 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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For the money, it's hard to beat the FLIR RS series models. I run the RS32 1-5 with 19mm lens. It works ok. I wish I would have gone with the next step up with the RS32 2-9 with 35mm lens. For $4K, it's a great thermal scope. Yes, the more you spend, the better quality of thermal you get.
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#6376714 - 07/20/16 09:29 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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You can't make a comparison on what's best without stating a budget range given you can spend from $2k-$20k.

I rented a FLIR RS32 I think it was and I thought it sucked. Just my opinion.

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#6377778 - 07/21/16 04:23 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Look at the Armasight Zeus 336, Atn Thor 336 and Pulsar Apex if you're trying to stay under 5K. If money is no object then IR defense MKIII 60mm scope and a reap-ir to spot and a high end PVS-14 (TNVC G3 thin film white phosphor is where its at right now) helmet mounted for driving/walking around. You're talking north of 20 grand for that kit though.

Also depending on where you hunt in Tejas I'd recommend a good pair of snake boots for walking around at night.
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#6379738 - 07/23/16 11:00 AM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Pulsar Apex 50A
love the picture in picture (PIP) option for handless zoom purpose.

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#6380446 - 07/24/16 01:36 AM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Another vote for the Pulsar Apex 50A. I shot through a couple of different scopes, and looked through a couple of others, before settling on the Pulsar. Picture is good, the software has been rock solid for me, the controls are easy to learn, and it can be had for less than $3500.
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#6382109 - 07/25/16 02:01 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Pulsar Apex XD 50A or Armsight 336 line on the low end, IR Defense on the upper end. I'm not a fan of the FLIR RS Series scopes.

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#6382184 - 07/25/16 03:09 PM Re: Thermal Optics [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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^^^I agree
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