I ordered three boxes of Winchester .280 Rem, 140gr., ballistic tip from Cabela's 'cause I couldn't find it anywhere else, I was getting low, and I wanted to stick with this rifle this deer season.

Opened them up to generally check them over and saw this guy on the right. 'Just seated too far down, right? All the casing edges seem a little rough. I was sticking with Winchester just because that's what I had for this rifle, but now I don't know.

The one on the left somehowvappears to be seated a little low, probably just how the pic was taken. The one on the right looks really low, not sure I would fire it at an animal. Casings look just a little rough but not somethin I'd worry about

I marked the headstamp with a black, permanent marker 'X'.

Other than CashNet.com guy who can you trust nowadays? We know your pressure is probably going up, and what if the powder dispenser O.D.ed at the same time? Wonder if todays Winchester ammo even would care to know about it.

Sorry to sound sarcastic but quality and QC seem to be fading in everything produced.

I quit using Winchester ammo several years ago. I was doing a contract job for Olin at their ammo plant in Illinois and saw first hand how they treated their employees. That plant was shut down and moved to Mississippi.

Here in my area, Olin bought a chlorine unit from Dow. Many of my closest friends work in that unit. They all say that Olin is a terrible company to work for. Constant budget cutting at the expense of quality, safety, and their employees. I will not support that with my dollars.

The bullet tip on the right looks like it was bashed in and deformed the tip, resulting in the pushed in bullet.

I have stopped buy Winchester products for similar reasons. Their brass alone has 3-5 pieces that are trash to reload. I can't do it anymore.

I bought some 25-06 winchester ballistic silver tips to shoot thru a buddy's gun. Gun went click click. Was a new gun so I though something was wrong with it. Looked and the primers were pushed down in pocket. Threw some handloads in it all went well. Pulled a few and the primers were narrower by .006 than any others I had. Would push the primer down instead of going off. Whole box was this way. If you were going on hunt and grabbed a extra box and headed out you would be very disappointed. Needless to say I don't shoot factory's anyway but will never trust them again.