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#6360519 - 07/06/16 08:00 PM A few numbers to have in your pockets
mikei Offline
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Very Interesting Facts About Gun Control





There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms.



That is not disputed.



What is never shown though, is a breakdown of those deaths to put them in perspective; as compared to other causes of death.


• 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws


• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified


• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons


• 3% are accidental discharge deaths


So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually but drops to 5,100.


Still too many?



Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?


• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago


• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore


• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit


• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington DC (a 54% increase over prior years)


So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.



This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation or about 75 per state.



That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others.



For example, California had 1,169. Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far?



California of course but understand, it is not the tool (guns) driving this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.


Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific?


How about in comparison to other deaths?


All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault; all are done by criminals to victims and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.


But what of other deaths?





• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose – THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!


· 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths


• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)


Now it gets good


• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical malpractice.


• You are safer in Chicago than you are in a hospital!


• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. Time to stop the cheeseburgers!


So what is the point?



If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even 10% a decrease would save twice the lives annually of all gun related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).



A 10% reduction in malpractice would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.



Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!


So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

It's pretty simple.


Taking away guns gives control to governments.
This is not conspiracy theory; this is a historical fact.

Why is it impossible for the government to spill over into dictatorship?



Why did the Japanese not even attempt to attack California in WWII?
Because as they put it, there is a gun behind every blade of grass.





The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did.



They too tried to disarm the populace of the colonies because it is not difficult to understand; a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.



Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the
constitution.

It must be preserved at all costs.

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#6361501 - 07/07/16 04:01 PM Re: A few numbers to have in your pockets [Re: mikei]
Marc in Bastrop Offline
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#6361538 - 07/07/16 04:35 PM Re: A few numbers to have in your pockets [Re: mikei]
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Nice post
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#6361578 - 07/07/16 05:05 PM Re: A few numbers to have in your pockets [Re: mikei]
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#6366867 - 07/12/16 11:44 AM Re: A few numbers to have in your pockets [Re: mikei]
fishfree Offline
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Registered: 10/08/11
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The progs really do not care about the facts; they just want gov to be the only ones with guns...period.

They are getting there slowly but surely. Every incident is a 'crisis' that 'must not be wasted' to pass 'common sense' gun control and every inch gained is kept forever and the line advances closer to the goal.

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#6369168 - 07/14/16 01:53 PM Re: A few numbers to have in your pockets [Re: Marc in Bastrop]
rexmitchell Offline
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Registered: 02/11/13
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Originally Posted By: Marc in Bastrop
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Agreed and I like the numbers but where did they come from.

Originally Posted By: fishfree
The progs really do not care about the facts; they just want gov to be the only ones with guns...period.

They are getting there slowly but surely. Every incident is a 'crisis' that 'must not be wasted' to pass 'common sense' gun control and every inch gained is kept forever and the line advances closer to the goal.


This is the bigger issue. The more ground gained is detrimental to our cause. Problem is, they will take an inch, gun violence will either remain the same or get worse so it will be time again to take another inch. This will happen everytime just like in California or any other liberal hell hole to the point they will basically outlaw guns and have the highest rates of gun violence anywhere.


Edited by rexmitchell (07/14/16 01:54 PM)

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