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#6349391 - 06/27/16 12:59 PM Refinish Vintage Rifles?
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I am looking at a Savage model 15 single shot bolt action .22 that the finish is rough on, and I own my Grandfathers Remington nylon 66 .22 semiautomatic rifle with a simulated wood grain Stock (finish on stock is good and I would not touch it) but the barrel and receiver cover need attention.

I am considering refinishing them with Duracoat, however I have several questions.
I would use mat black to simulate the original finish on both rifles.

1. does it hurt the value?
2. what is your experience with Duracoat? Tough to put on?
3. Is Duracoat better than old fashion blueing on performance and or value?

I would think that it would be better to refinish than let them rust down, what do you think? confused2
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#6349451 - 06/27/16 02:02 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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On a couple old .22's that are not considered collectible, I wouldn't hesitate to duracoat them.
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#6349517 - 06/27/16 02:43 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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Duracoat is a poor third-rate substitute for re-bluing, but it's cheaper and you may not want to invest much money in an old 22. - Mainly it depends upon how much you like the gun, what it means to you.

It will destroy the value of the gun, might as well rattle-can it, but if you follow the directions to the letter, Duracoat is not hard to apply.

I'd try to find a gunsmith who does rust bluing, and see what it costs before making a decision.

Just do a web-search for "rust bluing service".


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#6349526 - 06/27/16 02:47 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: dkershen]
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Originally Posted By: dkershen
On a couple old .22's that are not considered collectible, I wouldn't hesitate to duracoat them.


Have you seen the price of those Nylon 22's? They are approaching $400, some as high as $600 loco
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#6349534 - 06/27/16 02:58 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: dkershen
On a couple old .22's that are not considered collectible, I wouldn't hesitate to duracoat them.


Have you seen the price of those Nylon 22's? They are approaching $400, some as high as $600 loco


That's nuts. I knew there were some collectors out there but $400-600? In that case I guess the OP should go a different route on that gun.
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#6349535 - 06/27/16 03:02 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
Duracoat is a poor third-rate substitute for re-bluing, but it's cheaper and you may not want to invest much money in an old 22. - Mainly it depends upon how much you like the gun, what it means to you.

It will destroy the value of the gun, might as well rattle-can it, but if you follow the directions to the letter, Duracoat is not hard to apply.

I'd try to find a gunsmith who does rust bluing, and see what it costs before making a decision.

Just do a web-search for "rust bluing service".


Grandads Nylon 66 means a lot to me and I want to pass it down to my son, so I do not want to cheapo this one.
The other is a garage sale special that I plan to teach kids who come to the range with nothing to shoot, and to preserve a good old gun. Not relay looking to invest much.

I have a cold blueing kit but was wondering what any of this wold do to the value? I know that with furniture and so on that refinishing is suppose to ruin the value, but it would seam to me that letting it rust down would as well.
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#6349628 - 06/27/16 04:44 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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If you like it at least cerokote it.

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#6349661 - 06/27/16 05:19 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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I have a nice condition Nylon 66 as well. I would "never" paint it. Two options, try something to kill the rust first. Second, it will probably lower the value but I would re-blue it. Rusted gun vs re-blued gun about the same effect as far as value but never paint it.
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#6349701 - 06/27/16 05:46 PM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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Monetary value means absolutely nothing to me if it's a sentimental rifle. I refinished my great grandfather's Savage model 99 because I wanted to. I don't care that it hurt the value even a little bit. Do what will make you happy. If you decide to go the "paint" route, there is a guy here on the forum with really good prices on so glad color cerakote. Scalpel arms is the name of the company. I'm not sure what his screen name is, it might be the same.
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#6350203 - 06/28/16 06:51 AM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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The nylon 66 is worth a lot blue it.,

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#6350206 - 06/28/16 06:56 AM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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I had my grandfather's old Remington Model 24 restored to look like new. Hopefully, it never leaves the family.
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#6350345 - 06/28/16 09:29 AM Re: Refinish Vintage Rifles? [Re: rdhibbs]
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That is what I like about this group of guy's, even after reading the reviews, and so on I really did not associate it with paint. While this is a family heirloom which I would not sell for any thing, and my mane purpose is to preserve it I do not want to make it look cheap nor substantially reduce the value. The gun is not substantially rusted so I suspect that I will be cold blueing it this winter. I simply can not afford to hire any one to do anything at this point.

Thanks guys for the information.
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