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#6344568 - 06/22/16 09:57 PM Does the receiver really matter for a target ar?
Korean Redneck Offline


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Would like some opinions.

I've been wanting an ar in 6.5 Grendel for a while and want it to be more of a target rifle, as opposed to a combat rifle. I've already decided on getting this package deal from Odin Works for a barrel, bcg, bolt, handgaurd and a some other little parts.

Question: is there really and perceivable accuracy gain from a higher end/more expensive reciever set versus something like a cheap Anderson set?


Edited by Korean Redneck (06/22/16 09:57 PM)

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#6344587 - 06/22/16 10:11 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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No it's all about a good barrel with bolt and a good trigger the remainder just needs to be functional
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#6344590 - 06/22/16 10:16 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
No it's all about a good barrel with bolt and a good trigger the remainder just needs to be functional


Yep, but if I was putting several hundreds of dollars In the barrel, trigger, and BCG id spend a few more dollars and get a nice set of upper lowers. You can get a nice set of billets from joeboboutfitters their Spartan line, or Runner Runner Guns in McKinney they have the same upper/lowers as JBO but have Texas themed ones or I believe recoil gun works have the same. They're only about $120 for the lower and $120ish for upper, I'd much rather have a set of them on a precision build than the Anderson $45 lower. Just me though I'm sure the Anderson would work fine.
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#6344603 - 06/22/16 10:23 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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A matched receiver set seems like it would remove one more variable. I don't like the slop in my Frankenstein ARs and the play seems like it would effect accuracy.

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#6344610 - 06/22/16 10:29 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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As mentioned above, accuracy will be based from barrel, bolt, and trigger. But like Kroyal said, if you're gonna spend $ on a nice build you might as well make it nice.

Why 6.5 grendel over 6.5 creedmoor?

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#6344614 - 06/22/16 10:36 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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6.5 creed would be a totally different beast, Ar-15 (Grendel) vs Ar-10 (creed) more $ involved for an AR-10 build


Edited by Prodigy808 (06/22/16 10:36 PM)

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#6344618 - 06/22/16 10:40 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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For a target Ar-15 I'd spend on the barrel, trigger and ammo (handloads). any mil-spec 15 lower/upper should suffice


Edited by Prodigy808 (06/22/16 10:48 PM)

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#6344630 - 06/22/16 10:58 PM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Truing/bedding upper receiver with barrel will also squeeze every bit of accuracy out of your build. I've heard of folks using blue loctite to bed barrel extension with upper receiver. DONT use retaining compound if you ever plan to swap barrels, you'd need to use heat to release bond between upper receiver and barrel extension.

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#6344788 - 06/23/16 07:52 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Dien]
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Originally Posted By: Dien
A matched receiver set seems like it would remove one more variable. I don't like the slop in my Frankenstein ARs and the play seems like it would effect accuracy.


Might seem that way but it doesn't. I have two 450.00 fancy matching receivers and one has slop and the other does not so just because you buy high end you may still have to make minor adjustments to remove play.
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#6344801 - 06/23/16 08:10 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
Originally Posted By: Dien
A matched receiver set seems like it would remove one more variable. I don't like the slop in my Frankenstein ARs and the play seems like it would effect accuracy.


Might seem that way but it doesn't. I have two 450.00 fancy matching receivers and one has slop and the other does not so just because you buy high end you may still have to make minor adjustments to remove play.


Most all of the "high end" machined lowers have a tension screw under the grip. You might look and see if yours has one.


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#6344866 - 06/23/16 09:07 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Misfire]
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Originally Posted By: Misfire
Originally Posted By: DStroud
Originally Posted By: Dien
A matched receiver set seems like it would remove one more variable. I don't like the slop in my Frankenstein ARs and the play seems like it would effect accuracy.


Might seem that way but it doesn't. I have two 450.00 fancy matching receivers and one has slop and the other does not so just because you buy high end you may still have to make minor adjustments to remove play.


Most all of the "high end" machined lowers have a tension screw under the grip. You might look and see if yours has one.


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Most forged lowers have that nylon screw (really the only reason to get one)

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#6344903 - 06/23/16 09:33 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: bside]
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Originally Posted By: bside
Originally Posted By: Misfire
Originally Posted By: DStroud
Originally Posted By: Dien
A matched receiver set seems like it would remove one more variable. I don't like the slop in my Frankenstein ARs and the play seems like it would effect accuracy.


Might seem that way but it doesn't. I have two 450.00 fancy matching receivers and one has slop and the other does not so just because you buy high end you may still have to make minor adjustments to remove play.


Most all of the "high end" machined lowers have a tension screw under the grip. You might look and see if yours has one.


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Most forged lowers have that nylon screw (really the only reason to get one)

Did you mean billet? I've never seen a forged lower with a tension screw.

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#6344933 - 06/23/16 09:49 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Billet has the nylon screw, I haven't seen a forged lower with them yet. High end or low end receivers doesn't matter. As long as your upper and lower receiver mate together well with minimal to no play you're good to go. Aside from barrel and trigger setup.

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#6344961 - 06/23/16 10:04 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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If I was building a high end precision rifle I'd probably do that wilson combat matched receiver set. Looks very nice.

I like noveske barrels a lot but there are plenty of other good ones. The average shooter won't be able to tell the difference in most of the higher quality stuff.

If you want forged, Seekins makes a good set that is made to have no slop. I built my last SBR off that and it's excellent.
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#6344966 - 06/23/16 10:05 AM Re: Does the receiver really matter for a target ar? [Re: Korean Redneck]
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I don't like sloppy receivers because it's a distraction when I'm shooting. Doesn't affect accuracy though inherently but distractions do.
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