totally depends on the shooter and his/her shooting style. I shoot a well patterned full pretty much all the time, might not be able to get it out of my hunting gun if I tried. With that and the right shells I know I'm good to 60. when in your face shots present themselves, pull off of them a little to not damage the bird too bad. that is pertaining mostly to ducks. your average person dove hunting, I/c or mod would probably be best.