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#6334738 - 06/14/16 11:44 AM Need Help...What Scope?
corps2010 Offline
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Just a little info to help me make my decision.... I am looking for a scope to replace my Vortex Viper HS on my .300 Rum. This setup will be used for hunting 95% of the time with the occasional trip to the range. All distances will be less than 600 yds. What scope would ya'll recommend for me? Considering the ultimate low light scope, clarity, magnification, and reticle?( I know nothing about MOA/Mil reticles) if that helps you make a recommendation for me. I would like to keep the price below $1,500. Any help is appreciated!

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#6334810 - 06/14/16 12:19 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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What happened to the Vortex?
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#6334869 - 06/14/16 12:51 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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Bushnell Elite Tactical Mil/Mil FFP is an excellent scope that will come in under budget.
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#6334953 - 06/14/16 02:05 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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Huskemaw Optics

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#6335024 - 06/14/16 02:50 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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I have been pleased with the Vortex actually. Its been a pretty decent scope. The only problem I've had with it is when I purchased it, Vortex had a sale going on that included a set of custom turrets that they would include that matched the load data to your rifle. I gave them the load data and they installed the turrets but they have never tracked true since day one and it cost me my nicest buck to date as well as a cull and bobcat.( and no it wasn't the shooter, for those of you who will ask. Gun was set up on a dead shot field pod, dialed the distance, and the bullet broke a limb 3' over his back.... same with the bobcat and cull.) And thanks for responses guys. Keep em coming.

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#6335499 - 06/14/16 08:15 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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Exactly the kind of story that helps make my point of learning Mils, and confirming distant shots on the range.
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#6335534 - 06/14/16 08:38 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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I wouldn't blame that on the scope 100% either. Did you ever try the custom turrets at those distances before taking those shots?
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#6335537 - 06/14/16 08:40 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Bushnell Elite Tactical Mil/Mil FFP is an excellent scope that will come in under budget.


While that's an excellent scope, I don't think the OP is looking for one like that. He stated he knows nothing about MIL/MOA so is be inclined to think he wants something more hunting based
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#6335546 - 06/14/16 08:44 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
I wouldn't blame that on the scope 100% either. Did you ever try the custom turrets at those distances before taking those shots?


That would be my question especially since the same thing happened more than once. If it shot the same each time it's not that it didn't track. Did you actually chrono your load or go off what a factory ammo box said?
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#6335608 - 06/14/16 09:23 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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I bought the scope and rifle at the same time and dropped them off at my gunsmith to have a muzzlebrake installed and the scope mounted and sighted in (I work out of town or would have sighted it in myself.) When I picked up the rifle, the gentleman informed me that he had shot the rifle out to 700 yds and that the turrets were dead on. This was 3 weeks before season so I took it and shot it at 100 to confirm it was sighted in and took his word for it about the turrets. (didn't have access to a range further than that and it was my fault for not verifying this myself). Just left a bad taste in my mouth about the turrets. And I used the manufacturers chrono speeds they listed. And I appreciate the feedback but I am looking for something that is more hunting based.

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#6335622 - 06/14/16 09:30 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Bushnell Elite Tactical Mil/Mil FFP is an excellent scope that will come in under budget.


While that's an excellent scope, I don't think the OP is looking for one like that. He stated he knows nothing about MIL/MOA so is be inclined to think he wants something more hunting based


That's one of the ones I hunt with.

That's what works well to his stated 600 yards.
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#6335647 - 06/14/16 09:54 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
corps2010 Offline
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Fireman, how is the brightness and clarity in the Bushnell? The reason I stated 600 yds was because a pipeline I hunted last year, I could see bucks at that distance but couldn't tell much about them right at dark. Is there a scope you would recommend that would allow me a clearer/brighter picture of them at that distance or would you stick with the Bushnell? Is a NF, Zeiss or Swaro worth the extra money for what I'm looking for?

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#6335730 - 06/14/16 11:40 PM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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Scopes of European origin tend to be better in low light than Pacific Rim origin scopes. Leupold is the wild card, especially the VX-6, they are great in low light.

There are exceptions to the rule but it pretty much holds true. My guess is that it is legal to hunt big game at night in most of Europe, so low light capability is emphasized.
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#6335837 - 06/15/16 07:42 AM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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I watch bullet trace all the time with the Bushnell, the clarity is terrific. Swaro, and Zeiss may be clearer, but not much. They aren't up to the task of shooting distance, though.

NF ATACR is a scope I would like to have, but I can't justify the price since the scopes I have are getting the job done every week. NF SHV is not on the se playing field as the Bushy Elite ERS.
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#6336001 - 06/15/16 09:33 AM Re: Need Help...What Scope? [Re: corps2010]
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Depending on what the issue was. The turret may or may not have been an issue.


I will say the bushy would be a step up in optics and brightness. I went from the 4-16 pst to the 4.5-30 34mm tube and there is a difference. A noticeable one

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