Forums46
Topics537,996
Posts9,731,578
Members87,053
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
#6326192
06/07/16 03:12 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
HornSlayer
OP
Veteran Tracker
|
OP
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005 |
I would love to find a 9" filet knife made from good steel. Most I see are made of 420 or some other "easy to sharpen steel". I would love to have one made from something other than stock steel. What is the board's recommendation for a 9" or 10" blade? I really like the pattern of this knife but the steel is such crap I refuse to use it.
They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason!
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6326264
06/07/16 03:51 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,161
SouthWestIron
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,161 |
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: SouthWestIron]
#6326307
06/07/16 04:30 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,117
MikeC
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,117 |
The older ones are great if you can find one. The newer ones are made in China, so now they are crap steel as well!
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6326315
06/07/16 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,072
cabosandinh
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,072 |
1095 is good, but will rust if not oiled
I have 4 custom made/one off fillet knives in 1095 in 4 different shapes, from 6" - 11"
Set was meant to clean anything from crappie/stripers to tuna/groupers
if you're interested, I am selling the set for $400
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6326316
06/07/16 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,117
MikeC
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,117 |
Fillet knifes are a challenge. Get them hard enough to hold an edge and then they are a lot less flexible and could break if flexed to far. Keep them flexible and they won't hold a good edge. Bigger knives can be differentially quenched so the edge gets hard but the spine will still flex but the small profile of a filet knives makes that very hard to achieve. I've never tried to make one for that very reason.
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6326336
06/07/16 04:49 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 193
Andrew Griggs
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 193 |
A lot of custom makers use 440 C stainless steel. With proper heat treating and a cryogenic quench you can achieve good edge holding and still have a reasonable amount of flex to it.
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6327002
06/08/16 12:38 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
HornSlayer
OP
Veteran Tracker
|
OP
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005 |
I have a 20 year old Green handle Schrade that held an edge well. But it seems now not so much. Is it possible to sharpen away the tempered area over a long period of time? Cabo, I only catch really large fish so I don't need a crappie size knife.
They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason!
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6327405
06/08/16 05:20 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 424
Ridinbackwards
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 424 |
I've had several people tell me that the Dexter knives are good. I have not used one myself.
How you do anything, is how you do everything.
343 Never Forget
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: Ridinbackwards]
#6327786
06/08/16 05:13 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,072
cabosandinh
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,072 |
I've had several people tell me that the Dexter knives are good. I have not used one myself. They're good knives, I have about 30 of them for fish and other game lately I've been using Euro Nordic fillet knives in VG10 and fine steel from Japan - quite impressed
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6328386
06/09/16 01:00 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
HornSlayer
OP
Veteran Tracker
|
OP
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005 |
I use Dexter in all of my Markets. Great knives and a great company. They fall on the easy to sharpen side of the equation being made of 440 or 420 Stainless from what I have been told.
They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason!
|
|
|
Re: Why are most filet knives made from crap steel?
[Re: HornSlayer]
#6330565
06/10/16 08:52 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
HornSlayer
OP
Veteran Tracker
|
OP
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005 |
So I broke down and bought a 1947 Gerber carving knife set for $40 off Ebay. One of the knives in the set is 12", which should translate into a 9" blade. From the research I did it appears these were the first knives Gerber made after the war and are made of a modified surgical steel. Based on research they can be difficult to put an edge on but once achieve are extremely durable. I post up what comes of them, worst case they come in a walnut box.
They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason!
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, txcornhusker
|