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#6328915 - 06/09/16 09:38 AM TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD
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Note this sentence...“How Texas responds to the prevalence of CWD in its captive deer herd will have significant effects on the way state wildlife agencies and animal health organizations mitigate epidemiological issues like this from here on out,”

"Prevalence" in epidemiology suggests something is common. CWD was found in five captive deer. That's incidental, not prevalent. And there were no "detected" results in over 3,000 tests conducted on hunter harvested free-range whitetails during the 2015-16 season. Nor were there any other positive results on the thousands of captive deer slaughtered and tested under this emergency CWD interim order.

The incorrect use of the word "prevalent" tells me all I need to know about the future of deer management in Texas. Deer breeders are in for a shock. I imagine those who TTT and use DMPs are too.

Fouz


News Release
Media Contact: TPWD News, news@tpwd.texas.gov, 512-389-8030
May 27, 2016


Decision Postponed on Chronic Wasting Disease Management Regulations

AUSTIN – On Thursday, the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission postponed their decision regarding proposed changes to state regulations for managing chronic wasting disease (CWD), until a more thorough review is conducted. CWD is a fatal neurodegenerative disorder that affects cervid species like white-tailed deer, mule deer and elk.

“How Texas responds to the prevalence of CWD in its captive deer herd will have significant effects on the way state wildlife agencies and animal health organizations mitigate epidemiological issues like this from here on out,” said TPW Commission Chairman T. Dan Friedkin. “The commission believes it is important to take some additional time to review the proposed rules, which are the product of months of study and consideration by the department, the Texas Animal Health Commission and a subject matter experts from the medical and deer breeding community.”

Following an extensive public hearing where commission members heard comments from a wide range of stakeholders, landowners and licensed deer breeders, Chairman Friedkin recommended tabling a formal decision on the proposed changes until June, when a special meeting can be held to vote on the changes. Time and location of the special meeting will be announced at a later date.

“We would like to take the opportunity to follow up with stakeholders about some of the concerns that have been voiced,” said Chairman Friedkin. “These are challenging issues that affect all rural landowners, wildlife enthusiasts, deer hunters and deer breeders. It is my plan that we will consider rules next month that blend reliable risk management with simplicity and predictability.”

In April, TPWD staff published proposed rules that would implement the department’s comprehensive CWD management plan with respect to the artificial movement of deer under several TPWD permits, including deer breeder permits, Triple T (trap, transfer and transplant) permits, DMP (deer management permit) and TTP (trap, transport and process) permits.

Additional information about the proposed rule changes and the department’s response to chronic wasting disease can be found on the department’s CWD web page.

2016-05-27

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#6328965 - 06/09/16 10:22 AM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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It is hard to put into words how angry I have become with TPWD in recent years. I am absolutely sick of their heavy-handed tactics. Make no mistake, there is an agenda behind all this, and it is NOT in the best interest of the deer breeding industry.
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#6328979 - 06/09/16 10:39 AM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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Postpones...as in waits to make a decision out of the public eye?

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#6328986 - 06/09/16 10:43 AM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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Burn them all down as far as I'm concerned.

Too many rich hands in too many politicians pockets to make a wise decision.
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#6329042 - 06/09/16 11:24 AM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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I've been saying the TDA didn't want to keep this stirred up...they have done exactly that and aren't going to like the outcome.

TDA is going to get some of what they have been trying to serve up. Going to suck for the few breeders that haven't been overdosed in the TDA koolaid and live in a realistic world.

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#6329059 - 06/09/16 11:48 AM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: txbobcat]
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
I've been saying the TDA didn't want to keep this stirred up...they have done exactly that and aren't going to like the outcome.

TDA is going to get some of what they have been trying to serve up. Going to suck for the few breeders that haven't been overdosed in the TDA koolaid and live in a realistic world.


You, sir, are completely clueless about this entire situation if you think any of TPWD's actions are warranted.

This "war on CWD" that TPWD has fabricated is simply a witch hunt.
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#6329204 - 06/09/16 01:36 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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I'm no land salesman but I have been closely involved with a lot of what is going on here for over a decade. You should probably make assumptions about people you may actually know before you end up with your foot in your mouth.

I would say the most clueless so far on the whole situation have been those blindly following TDA and Keith Warren.

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#6329250 - 06/09/16 02:14 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: txbobcat]
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
I'm no land salesman but I have been closely involved with a lot of what is going on here for over a decade. You should probably make assumptions about people you may actually know before you end up with your foot in your mouth.

I would say the most clueless so far on the whole situation have been those blindly following TDA and Keith Warren.


As a scientist with over 30 years of research experience I can tell you that there is very little valid science driving the response from tpwd.

Whatever their agenda is, it isn't applying anything resembling science.

Pretty solid proof in the statement that they're gonna let public response determine their protocol.
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#6329273 - 06/09/16 02:36 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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I've been saying all along that the public was going to make a lot of the decision on this. TDA thought they were bigger than the public and took that route. It is going to hurt them in the long run regardless of what the scientific outcomes are of the whole deal. Instead of stepping up to the plate as a partner with the public to find the best solution they tried to play billy bad a$$ and are going to lose that battle.

Going forward I hope it's a wake up call for all Texas sportsman and sportsman advocate groups.

When you are playing a game with the government making the rules it's not always your best play to pee on the referee.

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#6329279 - 06/09/16 02:40 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
Originally Posted By: txbobcat
I'm no land salesman but I have been closely involved with a lot of what is going on here for over a decade. You should probably make assumptions about people you may actually know before you end up with your foot in your mouth.

I would say the most clueless so far on the whole situation have been those blindly following TDA and Keith Warren.


As a scientist with over 30 years of research experience I can tell you that there is very little valid science driving the response from tpwd.

Whatever their agenda is, it isn't applying anything resembling science.

Pretty solid proof in the statement that they're gonna let public response determine their protocol.



You can see that opinion on this forum.... Anti's and haters have done a great job confusing facts with fiction....

Most of the general public don't know CWD got here via free range animals, most are oblivious to the west Texas herd and soon to be panhandle herd. Nor do most know CWD was first observed in wild deer.

What do you do.... In the end more division and loss of rights. HSUS is smiling. There are those amoung us that would lay down thier rights for misplaced ideologies

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#6329284 - 06/09/16 02:42 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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So what you're saying txbobcat, is the state is going to get even with the TDA, rather than a formulate a sound plan and regulations based on science? That action won't benefit anyone.

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#6329286 - 06/09/16 02:45 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat

You can see that opinion on this forum.... Anti's and haters have done a great job confusing facts with fiction....

Most don't know CWD got here via free range animals, most are oblivious to the west Texas herd and soon to be panhandle herd. Nor do most know CWD was first observed in wild deer.


txbobcat, I've been involved in this for more than 10 years. I'm fully aware of all the CWD cases you cite above. I'm also familiar with what Wisconsin did in the four county area where CWD was discovered in wild deer. How did the eradication of every whitetail in those counties work out for Wisconsin?

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#6329287 - 06/09/16 02:46 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
So what you're saying txbobcat, is the state is going to get even with the TDA, rather than a formulate a sound plan and regulations based on science? That action won't benefit anyone.


Get even isn't what I would say. I would say they would have been a lot more pro TDA group if their response initially would have been positive. They lost a lot of public support and are going to lose more they stay in the spotlight. Outside of hunting deer farming, put and take ops, etc are going to have a bad public perception regardless of realities. TPWD answers to the public of Texas not aexclusively the TDA group or any other member group. TDA WAY outgrew their britches on this one and are going to feel some pain coming I'm sure.

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#6329289 - 06/09/16 02:47 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
fouzman Offline
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Thx for your reply, txbobcat.

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#6329290 - 06/09/16 02:47 PM Re: TPWD Postpones Decision on CWD [Re: fouzman]
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For the record I fall somewhere in the middle between TPWD and the breeders and my main criticism for TDA has been the response and attitude of the response.

TDAs response hasn't helped anyone in Texas hunting in general.

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