By the Grace of God we are finally getting rid of the Gov. issued M-16s. They were never IMO good carry LEO rifles. Anyhow we are now looking at Texas made Larue. We would shoulder the bill. Meaning each officer pays for their own rifle.

The one we are looking at is 2Gs per rifle. Are they that good and worth that price?? I know nothing about them and would think a lower price Sig, Rock or Smith would be ok.

Imo no not really. They are kinda heavy and will even be more heavy rigged out. Even their light isn't that light.

If you're shopping I would look at

JP - they have a great leo program check it out and their rifles are usually very accurate.

BCM

Daniel Defense - they offered a pretty good package

I would not Rock or Smith. I'm not up to date on my sig knowledge.

They are well made, accurate rifles. I've got a 5.56 predatAR with a 3-9x42 SWFA FFP scope on it that I like it a lot for longer range coyote hunting. That said they may be overkill from a cost standpoint for a police duty rifle unless Larue gives you a good break. Also depends on how they're going to be used and what sort of optics. If you're using backup sights and red dots, you might just as well save some money and look at daniel defense, colt, sig, etc. Noveske, Larue, JP, etc. are super nice but you're paying a lot for the name and aesthetics. If its a long ranch, sniper type rig needed then by all means look at the higher end stuff like Larue but for carry guns, might not be the best choice from a cost standpoint if everyone has to come out of their own pocket for it.

The cost scares me. It's 2 Gs and my wallet. A buddy just purchased a Sig from Academy . It was 1000 but Academy gave him a discount of 20 percent. The rifle looks legit, but I have NEVER shot one either.

It is (the Sig AR) IMO a carry LEO rifle, short and sweet. I'm not sure on where to go with a carry rifle. We have to "vote" and pass to take on the Larue, the price may be the kicker.

If you have to handle it in and out of your car all day along with your bag and donuts the billet aluminum and weight will add up. I think iliketohunt is going thru this now and is trying to lighten up

Had more than one officer tell me of problems with LaRue rifles.

I can only speak to what I currently own or have owned recently.

In .223/5.56; I've had DPMS, many PSA, DDM4v1, and a S&W sport. The only one I would really feel comfortable as a duty rifle would be the Daniel Defense. Don't get me wrong, I never had a problem with any of the others; and the PSA are all of high quality. It's just the DD has a reputation for being a reliable duty carbine.

In .308/7.62; I've had Armalite, Sig Patrol, DPMS Recon, and S&W M&P 10. This is a bit trickier as the Sig was an excellent performing rifle, but extremely heavy. The M&P 10 works well for my use, but the 18" barrel might not be ideal for patrol use. The AR10 had a 20" barrel, so even less handy. The DPMS performed well, but not sure I'd trust my life to it.

For a duty rifle I'd go Daniel defense. They're extremely well made and will be less than the larue by a good bit. I own both. Colt is good too but for similar money Daniel defense is where it's at.

I'd like to own one but for the price and its use there are probably better options out there.

I wonder how "precision" ars with tighter tolerances do in less than ideal cases.

Daniel Defense all the way. LaRue is not worth the money.

Si

JP.

+1 for JP Enterprise. Larue is not worth the cost.

I own a Larue and I wouldnt recommend for duty. Its very heavy and has very tight tolerances. It is stupid accurate for a gas gun but I could see it jamming if not kept clean, well lubed, and well fed. I keep mine squeaky clean and it only sees match grade ammo and handloads. If you're going for accuracy out of a gas gun then Id recommend. But if you're looking for reliability then Id go with something that other departments use.

Have two Larue rifles and love their design. Never had any problems with mine besides crappy brass while shooting suppressed.

Plenty of reliable ARs for a lot less money.

Our department SWAT snipers were using Larue for while, along with Surefire suppressor that came with the rifles. They were less than pleased with the combo. 1 out of 5 shots would be way off, but they could never say which shot. Didn't matter of it was with or without the suppressor. These were 308's and ran about $5k.

We were running either Colt or Rock River as patrol rifles, and we recently stopped buying the RR because of excessive throat and barrel ware.

I would suggest having your department do a Test & Evaulate with a couple different manufacturers for an extended period. That way it lets the user decide which rifle they like, ecspecailly since it's coming out of your pocket. The department can buy them as a package and you buy it from the department, usually makes it cheaper than what an individual can buy them for even at a discount.

If it were me, I'd buy the DD MK4V11, in a short barrel. Because who will really be making precision shots at over 100 yards in a patrol based function? Most shot opportunities will be within 25 yards.

I know of a department going to GA Precision AR-10's, for Sniper work. They brought up DPD, and Ft.Worth being less than pleased with LaRue. And every rifle has been tested with Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr.

Personally, I'd stick with a bolt action, but that's just me.

unfortunately our rule book doesn't allow 99% of us to carry bolt guns

I agree with the bolt gun, and my dept is sticking with that until a better gas gun comes up. They want the gas gun because of the idea that when the SHTF, they can make entry with the gas gun where as a bolt gun they would be ditching in favor of a pistol. One gun, multiple uses.

Wow!!!! Surprised Texans disown LaRue like this. I've got NO dog in the fight, but it appears LaRue needs to step up their game when it comes to their rifles. The mounts, on the other hand, are on par w/the best in the land. Maaaaaaaaaaaybe they'll read this & realize "Texans are NOT recommending our rifles to other Texans". That's a BIIIIIIIIIIG 'in your face' for, not only an American company, but even more, a Texas company. It's not like the rec's are coming from a bunch of Texas hatin' Yanks. These are rec's coming from Texans about a TEXAS gun maker!!!!!!! Gotta' be a heavy hit to LaRue, if you ask me. Hey, there comes a time when almost anyone needs to be put in their place & it appears this is LaRue's time. Having said that, I have loved, & will continue to own, multiple mounts they offer as I see them not only on par w/the best, BUT, also made in Texas. LaRue, you're up to bat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love accuracy, but the weight and unbalance is not winning me. I waited a long time for their lightweight model only to be soon traded off. Fit and finish were excellent, balance and overall did not pass with my personal likings.

Great mounts. And great guns just not the premium they ask.

Right. Wasn't meaning as a patrol rifle, just for Sniper work.

Try Windham Weaponry.

So far the finish is amazing an very accurate out of the box.

I still recommend Larue if you're looking for an accurate AR10 platform. There are only a handful of comparable AR10s that come to mind....GAP, JP, Seekins. Their AR15 platforms dont seem to be anything special compared to Noveske, DD, Seekins, and the like. Heck my $400 frankenAR was shooting groups equal to my buddies PredatAR when we were both shooting open sights. Put scopes on them and Im sure the Larue wins, but I could tell my buddy was irked at our $400 vs $2000 AR test. But when we're talking AR10, they make some accurate sticks which I can attest to.

Some of the reason ppl arent gung-ho Larue is because by all accounts the owner is a little cocky and a bit of a jerk. I havent experienced it but enough guys on Snipers Hide have to where they despise him. Ive seen Larue do alot of nice things over the years but Ive also seen them do some pretty bonehead things. For instance, for some reason they are developing a 260rem platform instead of 6.5creedmor which makes about as much since to me as night vision for a blind man. When folks have asked why 260 instead of 6.5 he states that he builds what people have asked for. I call BS and think its just he's just being a smug jerk that wont admit he got it wrong.. Seriously, you're gonna tell me that most requests are coming in for a 260rem over a 6.5creedmoor when everyone and their mom is producing 6.5creedmoor?