This post is meant for anyone monitoring that might be interested in a protein that I use, I have no vested interest in the company that manufactures DD and I pay the same as anyone else that purchases it from the feed store I use.

I am no "troll" trust me. Read some of my post. On here regularly. You are making some pretty serious claims. I am just asking legitimate questions about some statements you have made that are pretty strong. What do you suppose your deer sre doing the rest of the day when they are not at your feeders? I am guessing they are eating the natural browse

I am feeding DD on 4 ranches- total of 36,000 acres of low fence. McMullen, Refugio, and Webb county. I cannot say enough good things about this feed. A lot of people are skeptical about the feed and make negative comments because the results are unheard of. I can say that I have feed most competitors for years on HF and LF ranches and have not seen anything close to the results I am getting with DD.

Seems like the manufacturer or one of their customers would post the guaranteed analysis.

It is required on every bag so it shouldn't be hard to come by, be interesting to compare it with other well known / reputable feeds.

This thread has a bad smell to it.

Rain clearly has a much, much larger effect than anything you're feeding vs other feeds. Arguing that is just silly and gives a pretty strong impression that you have a vested reason to promote DD.

Not saying that's true, but making up an inaccurate rain amount is just weird. You can find the rainfall of a given area. It's recorded. Why just arbitrarily claim 7 inches when that's far from the truth?

The OP never mentioned rain. Another member did. Then a strangely familiar attempt at the "Socratic method" began.

It's a bag of feed, for Pete's sake.

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This is from another forum which has the lab breakdown. I do not feed Double Down just remembered seeing this.

This was also there

Thanks to the OP for the info.

This thread reminds me of that game where people sit in a circle and start a sentence whispering to each person next to them and how different the sentence and subject become once it makes it's way around the circle.

I found it very easy to google their website and request the guaranteed analysis which they sent to my email.

I never expected members to be so defensive of their current feed and so skeptical of other members opinions from their past experience with it. It's a big investment to protein feed that I would do my homework on after I hear good things about it.

To question members opinions in a way like they own the company and your relying on their experience/opinion to make your buying decision is bad form IMO. Put your big boy pants on and do some research and make your decision based on it.

Good post Pitchfork...spot on.

Thank you also Pitchfork, I wasn't trying to push anything on anyone! I was stating I am excited about a new feed I am using and would update people interested in the results as I go. Thank you Riccochet83 also for the Feed analysis. Creekrunner you are so correct, I did not mention rain, but I have seen area's of my ranch get up to an inch more than other area's of the ranch but regardless why would someone call out someone else on how much rain they got very senseless. Happy Memorial Day My Friends!

And a happy birthday to ya.

glad that is settled. Has anyone been to a good rat killin lately?

Many claims made over the past year or two about this feed doing miraculous things. I asked a fair and straight forward question - could record rainfall have anything to do with the results as opposed to the brand of feed someone puts out? Facts are that south texas and most all of texas has had significant rainfall and more than perfect range conditions over the past two and a half years and has obviously had much to do with horn improvement. Feed whatever the heck you want to feed - just seems like this should be put into perspective - carry on!

I suspect that the calcium to phosphorous ratio between 1-1 and 1.5-1 is part of the answer, to it's attractiveness. A lot of deer range is phosphorous poor causing deer to seek it out. A lot of supplements have a 2-1 ratio, while 2-1 ratio is ideal, it does little if deer aren't getting a majority of their nutrition from the supplement.

This time of year it seems that it doesn't take much for some to get their panties in a bind.

We often see claims of this or that being the cure for what ever, some have merit while others do not. like the old expression if it sounds too good to be true it probably is hold just as true now as it was when those words were put together.

I have no doubt DD is good feed for deer, lots better than some product like one product that advertise it gets deer to eat plants that they normally don't eat. If deer don't normally eat those plants there is probably a reason and why would I want deer on my place eating that.

We have been blessed or some that flooded would say cursed over the last couple years with rain above average that has helped about all the critters.

I'm going to just stick with Indian corn

Best thing for deer and they stay at the feeder longer.

I saw several young bucks get into a canoe I have at the ranch today and paddle out to one of my protein feeders filled with Double Down.

Strutty's is open on Sundays. Just picked up some corn and soybeans on my way to church. Handy. (I am NOT a paid advertiser.)

Maybe my pasture is dried out a little bit.

I had some on my place try the canoe thing, but the current in the middle of the field washed them down stream and I'll never see them again.

Can't beat mother nature. Really difficult to compare the results from last two years in most areas of the state to years prior. Results don't come in a bag and many members on the forum have proved that. On our place, we don't feed, yet the last two years has been very productive and we have seen some of the best antlers on our 2-4 year olds than we have seen in many years.

On a well managed place, there is no doubt that supplemental feed is an added tool and good to hear that this one is productive for so many.

I am still of the stance that on most leases (or should I say "average" leases), protein provides very little benefit to the overall antler growth based on what people feed, the amount they feed and the management practices of them and their neighbors. Sure doesn't hurt and works great as an attractant, but people shouldn't expect a dramatic increase just because they start feeding. Without other management practices, little difference is going to be seen.

Good example is to look at the ranches that do feed. In wet years, the protein consumption goes down and the overall antler size increases. Natural forage is going to win out. On dry years, protein consumption goes up and antler quality decreases. Biggest difference here is that the decrease is less on places that do feed and overall body condition is improved.

I am all for people feeding, but just don't buy into the idea that you can grow big bucks with a bag and I sure wouldn't discount the effects of rainfall when evaluating your results.

Good luck and thank you for the information and results

If your ranch is in bandera co you can't deliver the natural protein that maverick co does. Many brush species down there deliver 26-28% protein and it's in a form that is more digestable than any deer feed.

People get hung up on total % when it's not even digestable at those levels. The fact that we've had 3 straight years of timely and generous rains trumps any feed regimen you can artificially deliver. I never protein feed in zavala co if I get rain. Simply cannot artificially deliver the nutrients that the flora there naturally does.