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Double Down Feed #6309660 05/24/16 05:35 PM
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Strutty's in Boerne is now carrying Double Down Deer Feed

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That's right by me. I'll have to look up what it is. Price?


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It's not cheap as you know. I guess I am also paying for the convenience of not having to drive to Dilly. I paid around $14.50 a bag I think.

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My bud is running DD on his ranch and deer became addicted to it. It's crazy....deer eat, then go lay down for a while then back on it. And this is an area with very lush range conditions. Bud has 2 protein stations on his 300ac and since he switched to DD his deer numbers have gone way up. I know there could be other factors involved but I've never seen deer literally run to protein stations like a kid to the ice creme truck.
Darn sure something in it they really like.

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I am not familiar with this feed. Is it a complete deer ration or some type of mineral?
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It is a complete deer ration to include a mineral package,very high fat content(peanuts) and fiber (cotton seed) from what I have seen on a couple of different ranches that feed DD the body weight and antler growth is remarkable. If you are looking for a distributor in the Boerne area call Petra at Strutty's 830-981-2258 they received their first load of DD Monday and they are already out. She said she can fill your order within a couple of days notice if they are out.

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20% protein
4% fat
6.5% fiber
So far no public info of nutrient / mineral content or a guaranteed analysis so it can be compared to other well known / reputable feeds.



The marketing sounds like Buck Crack in a 50lb bag.

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I've been feeding it two years now it has made a very noticeable difference for us. Just be ready to dig deeper in your pocket. I fed over 90,000 worth last year compared to about 70,000 the year before we switched

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DH....you not the first I've heard this from in so tex. In fact im pretty sure our manager at the HF ranch near Catarina is going to switch to it next year. I'm hearing more and more positive feedback from DD and believe me I'm a very skeptical person.

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I've taken many, many photos of deer on a large place in SW Texas for several years now. The deer have added more mass and length than I thought was possible from year to year. I'm not selling the stuff and I don't care what anyone feeds but I know what I've seen and photographed!


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think the record rainfall for the past two years has anything to do with it? We feed a different brand and have had awesome horn growth the past two seasons

we also saw noticeable improvement when we added cottonseed to our ranch

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think the record rainfall for the past two years has anything to do with it? We feed a different brand and have had awesome horn growth the past two seasons

we also saw noticeable improvement when we added cottonseed to our ranch



The ranch I'm referring to in Maverick county had 7" last year per the land owner. Not exactly a record!

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Originally Posted By: Elkhunter49
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think the record rainfall for the past two years has anything to do with it? We feed a different brand and have had awesome horn growth the past two seasons

we also saw noticeable improvement when we added cottonseed to our ranch



The ranch I'm referring to in Maverick county had 7" last year per the land owner. Not exactly a record!


I am in Maverick County and there was officially right at 38 inches of rain last year (2015) - the year before that (2014) it got 19 inches or almost three times the average - the average is 7 inches a year. I am less than 20 miles from that ranch - If that ranch only got 7 inches then its gauges need to be checked

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I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime


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Originally Posted By: Elkhunter49
I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime


no internet report - we track it in several different ways and off of actual gauges - Also know several other LO in Maverick and they all recorded the same levels - so if you really believe that a ranch in Maverick County got 7 inches total in 2015 then you keep believing that.

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I'm sure the stuff is great. But I already can't justify what I spend on my little "deer field" at the home place and there's enough German blood in me that I'd have a conniption fit trying to buy it.

Big operations growing big horns for clients - I understand.


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I was a little hesitant to switch my protein feed which has done pretty good over the last 10yrs to DD, but I did visit several ranches that have feed DD for several years now and I believe that DD will be an improvement to the quality of the deer on my place. I am willing to spend the extra money to see and I will keep everyone posted of my findings.

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Originally Posted By: tlk
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I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime


no internet report - we track it in several different ways and off of actual gauges - Also know several other LO in Maverick and they all recorded the same levels - so if you really believe that a ranch in Maverick County got 7 inches total in 2015 then you keep believing that.


I belive you got what you said you got but I can tell the 3 different times of the year I was there last year the tanks were not full and I was eating dust from the roads


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Originally Posted By: Elkhunter49
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I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime


no internet report - we track it in several different ways and off of actual gauges - Also know several other LO in Maverick and they all recorded the same levels - so if you really believe that a ranch in Maverick County got 7 inches total in 2015 then you keep believing that.


I belive you got what you said you got but I can tell the 3 different times of the year I was there last year the tanks were not full and I was eating dust from the roads


I know the owner of the ranch bordering the one you are saying got 7 inches. He keeps meticulous rainfall records - I am asking him what his ranch got in 2015 and will get back to you


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Originally Posted By: Elkhunter49
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I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime


no internet report - we track it in several different ways and off of actual gauges - Also know several other LO in Maverick and they all recorded the same levels - so if you really believe that a ranch in Maverick County got 7 inches total in 2015 then you keep believing that.


I belive you got what you said you got but I can tell the 3 different times of the year I was there last year the tanks were not full and I was eating dust from the roads


Ok I just found your ranch on Farmlogs which is a very accurate rainfall site - 2014 you had 20 inches. 2015 you had 31 inches. So far this year to date you have had 11.5 inches. In a county that averages 7 inches of rain per year I would say those are pretty darn wet years

If you dont think this is accurate I will post what the neighbor tells me he got last year in his gauges as soon as he gets back to me.

Not saying DD is a bad feed - just saying that mother nature has the biggest hand by far on how deer do from year to year - and the rainfall all over south texas and maverick county last year was off the charts

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I agree that rainfall is a big factor on year to year antler production. That ranch in no way is my ranch. I've never fired a shot on the place and only comment on what I see. I'm not associated with the owners and couldn't care less what people feed their deer!








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Never said you owned the ranch. I know who the owners are. But careful making claims (7 inches of rain) about what a feed has done. People believe it and go spend their hard earned money on it.

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My pastures are as green as they have ever been that I remember, and we have had better than 15 inches of rain since march. The rain has no affect on my deer eating or not eating protein. I keep the feeders full as best I can and the deer will go to the protein feeders before they will touch anything in the pasture. I have several plants that carry 20% protein to the wildlife and as long as my feeder's have protein in them they will pass up the native browse.

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Originally Posted By: BowsnRods
My pastures are as green as they have ever been that I remember, and we have had better than 15 inches of rain since march. The rain has no affect on my deer eating or not eating protein. I keep the feeders full as best I can and the deer will go to the protein feeders before they will touch anything in the pasture. I have several plants that carry 20% protein to the wildlife and as long as my feeder's have protein in them they will pass up the native browse.


This is very interesting. So if a deer is not sleeping or laying down, they are browsing. Tell me how you know that your deer are passing up browsing and going to your feeders? Do you know how long a deer on your place is actually at a feeder versus browsing during the day? Your statement above comes across as very factual so I am curious as to how you know for a fact that your deer "will go to the feeders before they will touch anything in the pasture?"


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Do I detect trolling! I have watched deer get up from being bedded down and travel better than 500 yards without every stopping to browse making there way to a gravity fed protein feeder which is free choice all day. I do spend a lot of time in the pasture as well as monitor my camera's in my feed pens. I can tell you that a deer better than 1yr of age will consume approximately 1.5 lbs. per day! you ask me how I know this, I monitor the consumption of feed in each feeder on a weekly basis divide that by 7 which is the number of days in a week. This is how long it takes the deer to empty a 600 lb. feeder. I have 4 feeders on the ranch. I do game surveys that give me an accurate count of deer on the ranch. I take the total number of deer and divide that by the total weight of feed that was consumed for that week and I come up with an approximate consumption weight per deer per day.

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