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 Need advice (help)
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05/17/16 10:44 PM
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Dropp-243
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I see cabelas has the savage 10t on sale for $530. I have a savage 16 that I really like. I have plenty of 150gr ammo for it. I've also thought about getting a vanguard 2. Ok, question is do I get the 10t and if so which caliber. 308 or creedmore. Does the 10t shoot 150gr good
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/17/16 11:08 PM
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What caliber is your 16? I'm assuming it's a 308...either way I say don't get another one of the same caliber, unless your not happy with your current rifle.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/17/16 11:16 PM
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"Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it!"
I'm lost. If you have a rifle you like, why change? And it's "Does the 10t shoot 150gr well."
(Mea culpa.)
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 12:48 AM
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The 16 is a 308. I'm looking to get another rifle that my son can call his. I do like my 308 and have plenty of ammo for it. The 6.5 creedmore I have heard nothing but good reviews on. It's just something I would have to buy ammo for. I want a solid gun to give to him. Sorry about not discribing my concerns better. I was at my fiancées house.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 01:47 AM
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Dropp-243
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Leaning towards the savage in 308
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 02:56 AM
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rickym
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 04:22 AM
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No issue with getting another .308. Go for it, ammo is the deal maker for me
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 11:13 AM
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308 I wonder if big oil worried if diesel fuel was going to catch on? OP, get the 6.5 Creedmoor. You and your son will love it. I've got lots of short action cartridges, and if I had to get down to only one, it would be my 6.5 Creedmoor.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 06:40 PM
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I have a 10T in 308. You will definitely like the gun and if you already have a 308 you should at least consider the 6.5.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 07:09 PM
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better yet buy a Ruger American predator for less.
when the going gets really tough, I sit down and rest
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/18/16 07:13 PM
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better yet buy a Ruger American predator for less. if you can find one. comes in either cal. heaver barrel, adj triger my 308 shoots 150's extemly well. my 22-250 shoots just as well.
when the going gets really tough, I sit down and rest
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05/18/16 07:50 PM
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Have you ask your son which one he would like? How old is your son?
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05/18/16 08:33 PM
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308 I wonder if big oil worried if diesel fuel was going to catch on? OP, get the 6.5 Creedmoor. You and your son will love it. I've got lots of short action cartridges, and if I had to get down to only one, it would be my 6.5 Creedmoor. I wonder if Glock thought the .45GAP was gonna catch on.. or if TC thought the 30TC was going to be popular. Just joking. The other two were pointless from the start. OP, Get a different caliber than the one you already have. No sense in buying essentially the same thing.
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
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05/18/16 08:58 PM
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308 I wonder if big oil worried if diesel fuel was going to catch on? OP, get the 6.5 Creedmoor. You and your son will love it. I've got lots of short action cartridges, and if I had to get down to only one, it would be my 6.5 Creedmoor. I wonder if Glock thought the .45GAP was gonna catch on.. or if TC thought the 30TC was going to be popular. Just joking. The other two were pointless from the start. OP, Get a different caliber than the one you already have. No sense in buying essentially the same thing. Actually there is plenty of sense in buying the same caliber, since there are two shooters. They can likely find a load that both guns shoot well, which means one ammo type, not two. Also, .308 is cheaper than 6.5. Midway has 129 .308 loads, 9 6.5 loads-much more versatility. .308 is more widely available too if they find themselves short on ammo in a remote location.
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05/18/16 09:46 PM
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308 I wonder if big oil worried if diesel fuel was going to catch on? OP, get the 6.5 Creedmoor. You and your son will love it. I've got lots of short action cartridges, and if I had to get down to only one, it would be my 6.5 Creedmoor. I wonder if Glock thought the .45GAP was gonna catch on.. or if TC thought the 30TC was going to be popular. Just joking. The other two were pointless from the start. OP, Get a different caliber than the one you already have. No sense in buying essentially the same thing. Actually there is plenty of sense in buying the same caliber, since there are two shooters. They can likely find a load that both guns shoot well, which means one ammo type, not two. Also, .308 is cheaper than 6.5. Midway has 129 .308 loads, 9 6.5 loads-much more versatility. .308 is more widely available too if they find themselves short on ammo in a remote location. Exactly what I'm considering. My son is 23, and likes my savage 16 308. He has a ruger 243. That is why I'm considering a 308. I'll check out the ruger American predator. Thanks to all for the insight
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05/19/16 12:07 AM
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If 6.5 doesn't catch on like they hope ammo may not be as accessible as 308 I wonder if big oil worried if diesel fuel was going to catch on? OP, get the 6.5 Creedmoor. You and your son will love it. I've got lots of short action cartridges, and if I had to get down to only one, it would be my 6.5 Creedmoor. I wonder if Glock thought the .45GAP was gonna catch on.. or if TC thought the 30TC was going to be popular. Just joking. The other two were pointless from the start. OP, Get a different caliber than the one you already have. No sense in buying essentially the same thing. Actually there is plenty of sense in buying the same caliber, since there are two shooters. They can likely find a load that both guns shoot well, which means one ammo type, not two. Also, .308 is cheaper than 6.5. Midway has 129 .308 loads, 9 6.5 loads-much more versatility. .308 is more widely available too if they find themselves short on ammo in a remote location. So buy a 30-06, 300 WM, 7-08.. Never said it had to be a 6.5.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/19/16 01:10 AM
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Exactly what I'm considering. My son is 23, and likes my savage 16 308. He has a ruger 243. That is why I'm considering a 308. I'll check out the ruger American predator. Thanks to all for the insight Then why ask the forum? That's a valid reason for having two rifles chambered the same. Forgetting ammo is always lost on me. Zero times have I forgot ammo. Maybe it's because I use very specific hand loads. And/ or maybe I know a firearm is nothing more than a poor club without ammo.
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/19/16 01:32 AM
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Why does everyone like the ruger american?
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Re: Need advice (help)
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05/19/16 01:37 AM
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Because it's cheap and cheap people like to talk their cheap stuff up to make them feel better about cheaping out.
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05/19/16 01:37 AM
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Forgetting ammo is always lost on me. Zero times have I forgot ammo. Maybe it's because I use very specific hand loads. And/ or maybe I know a firearm is nothing more than a poor club without ammo.
It because you still grasshoppah. You get old, you fohget. When you see you not remembah I tell you this. You scratch head much then.
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05/19/16 01:43 AM
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After I read a ton of glowing reviews on the Ruger American, I went to check some out. I picked up 4. All 4 had nasty machining marks on the action, the action felt gritty, and the balance was horribly off- barrel heavy. Plus the stock was super cheapo in my opinion. I told the clerk how underwhelmed I was, and he preceded to tell me that he had 3 in different calibers and they could all split the hairs of a fly, flying at 1789 yards. Or something like that.
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05/19/16 01:46 AM
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After I read a ton of glowing reviews on the Ruger American, I went to check some out. I picked up 4. All 4 had nasty machining marks on the action, the action felt gritty, and the balance was horribly off- barrel heavy. Plus the stock was super cheapo in my opinion. I told the clerk how underwhelmed I was, and he preceded to tell me that he had 3 in different calibers and they could all split the hairs of a fly, flying at 1789 yards. Or something like that.
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05/19/16 01:54 AM
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Just because all the hype I've heard about the American I looked at a few at cabelas. Two words sum up my review, cheap junk... the action is terrible, the play between the barrel and stock is ridiculous, terrible feel in the hand... I won a Howa 1500 Hogue molded over stock a couple months ago. The howa is less expensive (389$-409) and a much much better built gun, for a cheap gun... I just wonder what all the ruger american die hards are comparing them to?
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05/19/16 02:00 AM
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Forgetting ammo is always lost on me. Zero times have I forgot ammo. Maybe it's because I use very specific hand loads. And/ or maybe I know a firearm is nothing more than a poor club without ammo.
It because you still grasshoppah. You get old, you fohget. When you see you not remembah I tell you this. You scratch head much then.  I bet you lunch that you don't forget to fill the tank with fuel before heading out on a road trip.
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05/19/16 02:01 AM
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After I read a ton of glowing reviews on the Ruger American, I went to check some out. I picked up 4. All 4 had nasty machining marks on the action, the action felt gritty, and the balance was horribly off- barrel heavy. Plus the stock was super cheapo in my opinion. I told the clerk how underwhelmed I was, and he preceded to tell me that he had 3 in different calibers and they could all split the hairs of a fly, flying at 1789 yards. Or something like that.
Shocker Exactly, BIL.
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