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#6301425 - 05/17/16 10:53 AM ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight
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stay tuned....I gotta wait until it gets dark:30.

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#6301457 - 05/17/16 11:13 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Looking forward to your feedback
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#6301622 - 05/17/16 01:38 PM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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100 - 150 yards please with that model .

Thanks
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#6302413 - 05/18/16 08:25 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Video as promised.

I was not sure of the horizontal white line that ran across the ATN's display? Dead pixels or a F/W issue?



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#6302423 - 05/18/16 08:35 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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After seeing this video with the white line going across the screen and the comparison with the pulsar...plus the "dead on arrival" issue Hetman had with his new ATN HD out of the box, I have determined that ATN just needs to close its doors and give up. Their product of late is just JUNK! Their digital night vision X sight was and still is a nightmare and now this. I currently have the older Thor 336 thermal and have had no issues...but it will be my last ATN product. Way too many other choices to roll the dice...in my opinion of course. lol

Thanks for the comparison!
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#6302436 - 05/18/16 08:44 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Did you manage to figure out what was causing the white line and also the shut-down? Thanks for posting and looking forward to a hunting episode with the Thor-HD if you can keep it running.


Edited by DoubleUp (05/18/16 08:44 AM)

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#6302455 - 05/18/16 08:56 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Did you ever get the ThOR to come back on?

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#6302458 - 05/18/16 08:57 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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After owning the original X-Sight and experiencing all the glitches, and now this, it's pretty clear that ATN has no idea what they are doing on the software side of things.

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#6302471 - 05/18/16 09:05 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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I was not sure of the horizontal white line that ran across the ATN's display? Dead pixels or a F/W issue?


Archer, that is what is called "ATN Syndrome." It used to just be an X-Sight isssue, but it is apparent that the issue occurs to multiple lines of their products and seems to be widespread system QC issues. How the heck did that scope ever get beyond QC?

Let me quote Sachal of ATN on this from the other thread on what he said about Thor HD's crappy videos...

Quote:
you can enjoy it for what it is

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6279400/3



Edited by Double Naught Spy (05/18/16 09:06 AM)
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#6302486 - 05/18/16 09:15 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
Quote:
I was not sure of the horizontal white line that ran across the ATN's display? Dead pixels or a F/W issue?


Archer, that is what is called "ATN Syndrome." It used to just be an X-Sight isssue, but it is apparent that the issue occurs to multiple lines of their products and seems to be widespread system QC issues. How the heck did that scope ever get beyond QC?

Let me quote Sachal of ATN on this from the other thread on what he said about Thor HD's crappy videos...

Quote:
you can enjoy it for what it is

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6279400/3



Although grammatically unclear, I believe the it was the video you were discussing not the scope.

With that being said I will not be buying an atn product anytime soon based in the x sight fiasco.

I want to see some review of the sig echo

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#6302515 - 05/18/16 09:45 AM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Well this is disconcerting...white line through the middle of the view and then shut off with no clear reason why. It seems the thermal sensor is about on par with the Apex, but the field of view for what "should" be comparable scopes is not quite the same (not that I expect it to be though). It seems the thor HD has a much wider field of view based on the early videos which also means you might need a much higher mag level to actually hunt with. Hard to tell at this stage.

Having said all that, aside from all the other issues with the white line and shut down, the view through both scopes seemed pretty similar so that's a positive...

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#6302719 - 05/18/16 12:40 PM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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I will produce more videos next week. Next stop will be on my AR15..we shall see how it reacts to recoil. More specifically, the "money shot" per say!
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#6302720 - 05/18/16 12:41 PM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Yes, both units are 384X288.

There is a contrast control internal to the Menu structure, however no external controls. I'm still searching for a brightness control.


Edited by Archersparadox2020 (05/18/16 12:48 PM)
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#6302789 - 05/18/16 01:24 PM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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On a side note, I had the brightness control too high on the Apex XD38A, next video I'll correct that.
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#6302867 - 05/18/16 02:33 PM Re: ATN ThOR-HD 384x288 Video tonight [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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It is important for people to realize the brightness doesn't mean a better scope. I appreciated the side by side, and esp the distance call outs as that gives a much better feel for the detection and usable range of the scope than brightness...

my understanding is the thor HD you used is a 1.25X and the Apex is a 1.45X

with similar sized sensors per specs (384x288) that should in theory give a very similar picture, although the Apex appears about another .5-1.0X bigger picture. Not a huge thing for short range hunting but could be a differenc emaker past 100 yards. I would love to see the difference between the 2X Thor HD and the 1.25X you have, as well as the 640 core 2X vs either of the before mentioned models. I think for my personal use I would want at least 2X based ont he video shown or possible more...

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