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#6289713 - 05/06/16 01:59 PM Most you would pay
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For a bird dog pup? I just dealt with a fellow that had a litter of Sinbad pups out of a very nice Elhew female and the conversation went south when he asked for $4K for a female pup. What's the most you would pay?


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#6289725 - 05/06/16 02:08 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Like an 8 week old pup? $750 max. There is no puppy worth more than that to me. Maybe others but not me.
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#6289728 - 05/06/16 02:09 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
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Yes sir 8-10 weeks.
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#6289742 - 05/06/16 02:20 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Chet, I have paid up to $800.00 for one. I am typically in the $5-600 range. The bigger the name in the pedigree, the more they cost. Go price you a female pup out of Shadow Oaks Bo and get ready to faint.

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#6289799 - 05/06/16 03:04 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Chet, get 2, one for you and one for me.
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#6289803 - 05/06/16 03:08 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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I paid part of the stud fee for a littermate to Elhew Swami. I paid $600 for my Honkey Tonk Attitude pup. Pointers usually don't cost as much as some of the other breeds. I've been out of the market for so long, but I would think $800 max for a pointer pup.

Edit: I just checked NSTRA classifieds. There were no pointer puppies listed. Here a high priced Brittany.



Upcoming litters due in late May/Early June sired by NGDC NAGDC FC AFC Peter Gunn - the most decorated brittany in AKC Gun Dog history with a start in NSTRA. These breedings work to combine the best of NSTRA lines and AKC lines.
1) NGDC NAGDC FC AFC Peter Gunn x Genuine Risk (a National Dual Dog of the Year DC AFC Terra's Cabo Wabo daughter - which adds NFC DC AFC Tequila's Joker HOF to this litter's pedigree). $1500/puppy
2) NGDC NAGDC FC AFC Peter Gunn x FC AFC Emma Tayshon (a NFC 2xNAFC FC AFC Just Call Me Roy HOF daughter). Emma was the 3rd place dog at the 2014 National Gun Dog Championship and also the top female. Just Call Me Roy is a hall of fame inductee who is the most decorated all age dog in the history of the breed. This pedigree has an unprecedented 15 total national awards and placements in the first two generations. $2500/puppy
3) NGDC NAGDC FC AFC Peter Gunn x Ima Threat (a 2xNGDC DC AFC Winchester of Hanging Jaze dau ghter). Ima is only one of three females sired by Winchester of Hanging Jaze in existence. Winchester of Hanging Jaze is a 2x National Gun Dog Champion and also a National Dual Dog of the Year award winner who adds FC AFC Rimarda's Trademark HOF to the pedigree. $1500/puppy
Please see website for contact purposes and full litter details which includes pedigree, parental photos, and lineage details. www.carterbrittanykennels.com or contact Jim Carter, DVM via phone 912-383-5793 or email carterbritts@icloud.com


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#6289814 - 05/06/16 03:25 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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Originally Posted By: NorthTXbirdhunter
Chet, I have paid up to $800.00 for one. I am typically in the $5-600 range. The bigger the name in the pedigree, the more they cost. Go price you a female pup out of Shadow Oaks Bo and get ready to faint.


Haven't checked lately but Bo's pups were selling for $1800. Any good breeding with a multiple champ will cost $1000 to $1500 now days. Back a few years before his passing Bob Wehle was selling pups for $3000. But a 4k pup is ridicules. Typically a good pup will sell for the price of the stud fee but the stud fee for Sinbad isn't 4k (I think) though he is only AI now and that is a more expensive proposition. I was shocked.


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#6289845 - 05/06/16 03:55 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Originally Posted By: Chet
Originally Posted By: NorthTXbirdhunter
Chet, I have paid up to $800.00 for one. I am typically in the $5-600 range. The bigger the name in the pedigree, the more they cost. Go price you a female pup out of Shadow Oaks Bo and get ready to faint.


Haven't checked lately but Bo's pups were selling for $1800. Any good breeding with a multiple champ will cost $1000 to $1500 now days. Back a few years before his passing Bob Wehle was selling pups for $3000. But a 4k pup is ridicules. Typically a good pup will sell for the price of the stud fee but the stud fee for Sinbad isn't 4k (I think) though he is only AI now and that is a more expensive proposition. I was shocked.


I saw a Bo female pup recently that was 9 mo. old and still going through puppy training, not even broke yet, going for $3200.00. Finding an available female pup out of Bo is tough these days and if you want one, you are going to have to put up some real coin. Most of the breeders are keeping the females to demand these high prices. A little birddog supply and demand pricing going on here.

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#6289849 - 05/06/16 04:01 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Originally Posted By: Chet
For a bird dog pup? I just dealt with a fellow that had a litter of Sinbad pups out of a very nice Elhew female and the conversation went south when he asked for $4K for a female pup. What's the most you would pay?


Quick word of advice:

When buying pups at these prices that have been mentioned, make sure that the parents have been DNA tested and the breeder is holding the seal on them and the litter before money trades hands. I know from experience.

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#6289863 - 05/06/16 04:24 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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Don't know, have paid $800 more than once...This year, I am afraid it's gonna cost me $1000.

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#6290033 - 05/06/16 07:01 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Pointer]
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$800 is the max I have paid. $4,000 for a pup is insane.
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#6290053 - 05/06/16 07:20 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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$1,500 for an AWS

Dad multiple master titles in retrieving and upland
Mom master retriever, mid-tier upland
Sorry, I've long since forgotten the specifics.

One of the parents had placed high enough in the Westminster dog show to be on TV shortly after I purchased the dog.

Couldn't pick the dog up until week 10 because my wife had a back fusion.

Dog already had some pretty decent obedience training for its age and was retrieving small ducks up to 40 yards away at four months while already associating gunfire with a reward.

Generally, the dog has taught me more about bird hunting with his instincts than I've taught him with training.

$4k. That dog better be able to blink a covey of quail into existence in east Texas from nothing but thin air, bring me drinks from the fridge and open the door to go out by himself, lock the door behind him on the way out and unlock the door with a key to get back in.


Edited by Windrider (05/06/16 07:21 PM)
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#6290242 - 05/06/16 10:25 PM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Windrider]
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Originally Posted By: Windrider
$1,500 for an AWS

Dad multiple master titles in retrieving and upland
Mom master retriever, mid-tier upland
Sorry, I've long since forgotten the specifics.

One of the parents had placed high enough in the Westminster dog show to be on TV shortly after I purchased the dog.

Couldn't pick the dog up until week 10 because my wife had a back fusion.

Dog already had some pretty decent obedience training for its age and was retrieving small ducks up to 40 yards away at four months while already associating gunfire with a reward.

Generally, the dog has taught me more about bird hunting with his instincts than I've taught him with training.

$4k. That dog better be able to blink a covey of quail into existence in east Texas from nothing but thin air, bring me drinks from the fridge and open the door to go out by himself, lock the door behind him on the way out and unlock the door with a key to get back in.



Word of advice.... You never want a quail hunting dog to "blink" a covey of quail. That is a negative connotation. That is a habit that is equal to or worse than gun shyness. It is nearly impossible to correct the dog of this habit of which they find a covey and leave it because of the pressure of staying broke and handling the report of the gun. They just ease off and don't participate in the action.


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#6290383 - 05/07/16 08:10 AM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: Chet]
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Just paid $850 for a female pup out of Rock Star Andy. Step up from $500 male, $600 female going rate I was used to. There is not a lot of inventory out there, about half of the good breeders i had in my contact list from 8 years ago have sold off or closed shop so I think its a victim of a supply and demand thing (in Texas anyway, cant comment on the other states). Proof point - about 5 of the breeders (several were good ones in Oklahoma that had published litters and recent welp dates) never called me back.

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#6290405 - 05/07/16 08:38 AM Re: Most you would Pay [Re: danceswithquail]
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Great choice, did you buy from Buck or someone else have the female? Andy has as good a blood as any dog out there.
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