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#6282520 - 05/01/16 04:24 PM "Long range" scope for 30-06
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If you've seen and contributed to my hypothetical elk gun thread, whoop ti doo. Don't bring that into this thread.

I'm pretty much set on my scope-to-be, but am thinking about upgrading my dad's 30-06's Nikon Buckmasters 4-12x50mm with duplex reticle. Price point would be less than $1000, with under $700 (5-6) being the best bet. Wanting to be able to shoot out to 500yd, if necessary.

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#6282615 - 05/01/16 06:12 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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That's not "long range" instead should be called "hunting scope for 30.06"

What's wrong with the scope on there? SWFA 3-15 would be my answer for that price range
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#6282617 - 05/01/16 06:13 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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#6282618 - 05/01/16 06:13 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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http://swfa.com/Burris-3-15x50-XTR-II-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P87539.aspx

Came in budget by a dollar.

I have one of these on loan from Burris. I'm very impressed with it. The glass is very nice, the turrets are tactile and just hard enough to turn that they won't get turned without you knowing. 3X gets you a clear sight picture as close as 20 yards, and 15X has worked very well out to 800 yards. They went into this project to be in the price range of the Vortex Viper PST, they left the Viper in their dust. Better glass clarity than the SS in the same magnification range. Best bang for your buck without a doubt.
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#6282620 - 05/01/16 06:16 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
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What's wrong with the scope on there?


Won't get him to 400 yards routinely.
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#6282652 - 05/01/16 06:45 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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I am tremendously impressed with Burris of late. I have a 5-25x50 XTR II that is phenomenal, and several other burris products that are very very good and reliable.
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#6282715 - 05/01/16 07:20 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: BigPig
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What's wrong with the scope on there?


Won't get him to 400 yards routinely.


So.....it won't track?

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#6282719 - 05/01/16 07:23 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Doesn't even have turrets for it to track. Covered knobs. And a duplex reticle that does little for wind holds.
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#6282759 - 05/01/16 07:42 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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Fireman and rguns, I am impressed with the Burris, but am going to have to pass on it this time around. If I can convince my dad to upgrade, I'd go SWFA.

On another note, I'm going 6-24 Viper PST FFP on the 270.

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#6282833 - 05/01/16 08:22 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari


On another note, I'm going 6-24 Viper PST FFP on the 270.


Had it, sold it, got the Burris.

The Viper took a little tumble on a Mule deer hunt and lost zero.

Same hunt, more times than I can remember, I'd unsling the rifle and the turrets had inadvertently been turned without me wanting them to be. And 6X is too high of a low end when in thick brush. At 5 pm today I hit a 10" and subsequently a 5" square at 500 yards in a 7 mph wind. But hey, you asked for guidance, when it looks like you already had your mind made up, so I don't know what further help I can be.
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#6282857 - 05/01/16 08:34 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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I agree the 4-16 would be better suited for Th 270 & 30-06. I hunt with the 6-24 on my 308 & 270, and I give up some early morning and late evening shots. The 308 will love with the 6-24 but the 270 will be switched this year to a 3-15 Burris
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#6282972 - 05/01/16 09:40 PM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari


On another note, I'm going 6-24 Viper PST FFP on the 270.


Had it, sold it, got the Burris.

The Viper took a little tumble on a Mule deer hunt and lost zero.

Same hunt, more times than I can remember, I'd unsling the rifle and the turrets had inadvertently been turned without me wanting them to be. And 6X is too high of a low end when in thick brush. At 5 pm today I hit a 10" and subsequently a 5" square at 500 yards in a 7 mph wind. But hey, you asked for guidance, when it looks like you already had your mind made up, so I don't know what further help I can be.
Actually, I made my decision based on your "loaner" set up on your website. Well, now that it was 4 "yes"'s, I'll put that on my gun. One question: is it MRAD or MOA, or does it not matter? I'm really confused with MOA/MRAD as is, which is why I'll be taking your class this summer, lol.

I'll put the Burris on my gun, and the SWFA on his, God willing. up
Thanks for the input.

What bases/rings for a Vanguard for the Burris?


Edited by chital_shikari (05/01/16 09:50 PM)

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#6283089 - 05/02/16 05:29 AM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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Mil, MRAD, Miliradian are all the same thing. Avoid MOA in everything. I'll show you why on the dry erase board, and the range. Everyone always agrees.

I need to update the site. I've changed some things and need it to reflect those changes.

See if EGW makes one piece Pic rail for both rifles. 20 MOA base will get the scope zeroed on the first revolution, as it was designed to be.
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#6283241 - 05/02/16 08:33 AM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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I was going Warne 2 piece base and permanent rings...is there any reason why this combo won't work?

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#6283281 - 05/02/16 09:06 AM Re: "Long range" scope for 30-06 [Re: chital_shikari]
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It will work, but there are two reasons to one piece pic rail is a better way.

1. The one piece pic rail is stronger, and often creates better alignment

2.With the one piece pic rail, and rings that have the Weaver connection, with cross bolt allow the scope to be quickly and easily moved to another rifle. That is how I can have three scopes for six rifles. A 1/2" hex nut loosened, scope and rings come off in one piece. Move the scope to another rifle that is also wearing a pic rail. Rezero in two shots. So when you buy another rifle you do not have to buy another scope. Good scopes are expensive, after all.

Talley Tactical, and Badger Ordinance are the rings of this style that I use.
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