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Hypothetical Elk/allround rifle #6277370 04/27/16 03:00 PM
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Hypothetically, of course. grin

Caliber: 7mm-08, 270, or possibly 7mmRemMag
Budget: $2000, scope included. Wanting to keep it under $1500, if possible
Misc: wood stock

Looking at Monarch 5, VX3, and the Vanguard Sporter.

Have at it popcorn

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Get you a Model 700 SPS in 300WM with a decent 4x12 power scope of your choice and go drop a hammer a bull!!!!!


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Vanguard Sporter would be great in .270 or 7mm-08. Wouldn't get one in a magnum cartridge because the Sporter only comes with a 24" barrel in all calibers. I would want a 26" barrel with a 7mmRM. Just my opinion, there are many who like a 7mmRM with a 24" barrel.

Either scope would be great.


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All around Texas 7mm-08

All around us 30-06

Elk gun 7mm rem/ 28 nosler running 195 Berger

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You may be able to eek out a semi custom at 2k... 400 for an action. 800-1000 rebarrel

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If you use a 7 mag, you can use light loads in it for general use and full power loads for elk. I use either Hornady Custom Lite or Remington Managed Recoil for deer in my 7 mag. The ballistics are almost identical to a 7mm-08. For the big stuff like nilgai and elk, I go back to the full power rounds.

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I feel you're going to get a bunch of different answers on caliber selection, but Cleric pretty much hit the nail on the head.

IMO a 30-06 is probably one of, if not the most versatile rifles out there. Bullet selection is great and reasonably priced for over the counter, has plenty of knock-down for an elk at decent range, but little enough for whitetail hunting. It's just an all around great caliber.

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You have asked this question 100 times and you already know your answer. How is that tikka 7-08 you were going to buy ?

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I'd want something faster than a 7-08 for elk. I'd go 7 mag or 300 mag.


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I bought a 7mm rem. For elk but end up carrying my .270.

You'll shoot a .270 way more than a 7mm or .300 anyway

Go hunt a few times....if you make a habit of mountain hunting buy a dedicated elk rifle in .300 win.

Until then buy a good mid caliber deer rifle


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I killed both of my New Mexico bulls with a 270WSM. It's a Remington XCR topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4-14x44. Proabably have about $1500 in it. It's light enough to carry all day in the mountains but enough gun to down a bull.


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I shot mine with a tikka 300wsm with a leupold vx3 4.5-14x40 with a Boone and Crockett reticle


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Originally Posted By: Toxarch
I'd want something faster than a 7-08 for elk. I'd go 7 mag or 300 mag.


Why? The 7x57 has been crushing African game for decades, at moderate speeds, and plains game are every bit as tough as elk. A 7mm-08 with good bullets like a partition, accubond, TTSX, etc will kill any elk anywhere when you put the bullet in the right place. All ad moderate recoil I might add.

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Hypothetically, of course. grin

Caliber: 7mm-08, 270, or possibly 7mmRemMag
Budget: $2000, scope included. Wanting to keep it under $1500, if possible
Misc: wood stock

Looking at Monarch 5, VX3, and the Vanguard Sporter.

Have at it popcorn


Great choice! The only thing different I would look at is a Zeiss Terra. After using one I like them better than the Lp or the Nikon.

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Originally Posted By: booradley
Vanguard Sporter would be great in .270 or 7mm-08. Wouldn't get one in a magnum cartridge because the Sporter only comes with a 24" barrel in all calibers. I would want a 26" barrel with a 7mmRM. Just my opinion, there are many who like a 7mmRM with a 24" barrel.

Either scope would be great.


In 2017 the Vanguard will come with a 26" barrel in magnum calibers!

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270, 308 or 7mm-08 would be fine, assuming you're not trying to shoot across the mountain. A guy in the outfitters section took a grizzly with an sks. What caliber do you currently have?

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I would really consider the 3006, ammo is always available even in the one horse towns, local hardware stores even seen in feed stores in Colorado. I used the 180 gr. DRT.

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I would go Tikka T3 Lite in 270wsm, 7mm mag, or 300wsm, with the best glass you can afford. Or Remington 700LR in 30-06.

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Hypothetically, of course. grin

Caliber: 7mm-08, 270, or possibly 7mmRemMag
Budget: $2000, scope included. Wanting to keep it under $1500, if possible
Misc: wood stock

Looking at Monarch 5, VX3, and the Vanguard Sporter.

Have at it popcorn


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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
You have asked this question 100 times and you already know your answer. How is that tikka 7-08 you were going to buy ?
I decided not to, and a long time ago. Previously, I asked for a general deer rifle, and the consensus for that was the venerable 7-08 T3. But this is a little different. If you must troll, then do it correctly. And a question repeated is better than a question unasked.

I don't like the Tikka wood stocks. I know, buy the synthetic, buy aftermarket wood. Plus I love the Vanguard series.

Settled (hypothetically) on 270, Vanguard Sporter. Now for scope I realized why not go with what I already know works (like the Vanguard): Conquest HD5. Now the question is, do I go 5-25x or 3-15x? I'm thinking the former, because my Conquest @ 14x is decent out to 3/400yd, and I'm not shooting farther than that. Also, this hypothetical gun would see action in TX, and I see no point of 25x other than 400+, which we've established is past my comfort/ability. So, 3-15x, then?
Yeah...3-15 sounds better. Yes? cry

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I bought a 7mm rem. For elk but end up carrying my .270.

You'll shoot a .270 way more than a 7mm or .300 anyway

Go hunt a few times....if you make a habit of mountain hunting buy a dedicated elk rifle in .300 win.

Until then buy a good mid caliber deer rifle
Thank you for this in particular. I like this idea lol. up

Again, thanks to everyone for replies and input. I have a 22-250 right now that's done the job under 250yd for TX game. Won't do it for this. As for 30-06, I already have one in the house and if this hypothetical doesn't become real, then I'll probably end up borrowing one.

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300 Remington ultra mag , shooting power level 2 loads ( I can't recall what that bullet is but it put my elk down nicely)


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Hypothetically, I found a RPG to be a little over the top.


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Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Hypothetically, I found a RPG to be a little over the top.
roflmao

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6.5 creed would also be a good choice.

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