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#6276668 - 04/26/16 08:12 PM Home invasion
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Just wondering if anyone has or knows someone that has experienced one that they wouldn't mind sharing the story of. Just curious an expected reaction vs actual reaction.

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#6276698 - 04/26/16 08:24 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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What do you want to know?

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#6276716 - 04/26/16 08:29 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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As the original post says, ones expected reaction vs how they actually reacted. I'm sure many people have trained or thought how they would react to someone coming through a door or window in a particular part of their home. Curious for those that have actually experienced it, if they reacted how they thought they would.

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#6276806 - 04/26/16 09:09 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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So a young female knocks on the door about 830 at night. The family answers the door to see what she needs. 3 dudes rush in and over take the whole family downstairs. They duct tape the 4-5 downstairs to include 2 very elders. They are holding everybody at gun point and began pistol whipping the dad asking where the gold at. Mom and 12 year old son are watching from upstairs. Boy goes and hides under the bed and calls 911. Meanwhile they are still working on dad to get into the safe. Lol, he tells them the wife has the combo and she is upstairs. Now they go get her and tape her up. So this goes on for a few minutes.
Once the call is received the good guys rolled up with a team of 7 within 5 minutes. We approach and see brakes lights light up in front of the home. 3 contact the female driver which turns out to be the get away driver. As myself and two more approach the house I see an open gate and hear bodies jumping a fence but can't see. We enter the back yard and look into the house to see 12 year old boy in taping his family. We surround the area best we can and notify neighbor city and call in the dogs. We also call a helicopter.
The dog tracks for about a mile and when the bird starts spotlighting the neighbor city gets a call about a carjacking. Our suspects carjacked a guy when he got home. That car goes 15 miles south and is chased down. 2 of 3 are caught. 3 escapes for about two more days and is found in Houston and picked up and brought back.

Family got very traumatized for a little bit of "worship" jewels and the house ram sacked.
All said and done after debriefing with the family the father said even if he had a gun he would not have been able to use it because the take over was so fast and they were dominating the family at gun point. He said he might have got one bit his family would be dead. It was just luck his son had the smarts to hide and call, just like on tv.
This stopped a big ring of invasions and burglaries and we got lucky because the driver parked on a cul de sac.

So story is if somebody has the drop there isn't much one can do.

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#6276824 - 04/26/16 09:16 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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Like BIL story, I have never worked a Home Invasion where it was just 1 suspect. My friends make fun of me, but when I'm home I have the alarm set on panic. A home invasion is never a gentle or friendly encounter, it's usually a group that's not afraid to use force to get what they want.

Plan for the worst, but be realistic and accept the fact that you may not be able to do anything except cooperate. It could save your life
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#6276827 - 04/26/16 09:17 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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It sucks, too fast to know what the [censored] to do. Even if all my guns weren't in my gf's truck I prob would've shot one and got all my roommates killed.
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#6276835 - 04/26/16 09:20 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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Not much you could do there. Obviously you're LEO, is it more common to see the bad guys armed or unarmed during an invasion?

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#6276844 - 04/26/16 09:24 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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Typically do they kick in doors, windows or do they have some kind of method like what BIL mentioned?

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#6276851 - 04/26/16 09:28 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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I don't answer the door unless I know the person ringing the door bell. I also keep my doors locked and alarm on. Its not living in fear its just giving me an extra couple seconds to get the family into the bedroom, call cops, and grab a gun.Hope it never happens to us.
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#6276854 - 04/26/16 09:29 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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99% are armed, or make it appear they are.

I'd say it's a 50/50 mix of kicking doors vs using a ruse. The idea behind the ruse is to calm the people down, also gets them to disable any alarms. Kicking a door can create unwanted problems for the bad guys.

I have seen a few invasions where the suspects weren't armed, they were simply burglars who didn't know somebody was home. Victim was taking a shower, once the suspects saw her, they had been in there 20 minutes and panicked. They fled the house but we were close and caught them. Most burglars are non confrontational, robbers seek victims.
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#6276897 - 04/26/16 09:51 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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Unknown target they will tend to knock at the front door, when nobody answers they will go around back and kick the door or break a window undo the locks and open the window. I see more kicks than anything.
These guys pose a lot as door to door salesman or solicitors. If you only knew how big pos most these guys are.
A true robber invasion mindset doesn't care and they are armed usually. Burglars don't want confrontation.
A lot that we see or find out are totally stoned out of their mind and have really no clue what they are doing.
Have seen a video of 4 kids that entered a home because the guy forgot to shut the garage. They rummaged his office and took his box wine as he slept 20' away. The dog woke him but to late. He probably would have got hurt. Bad guys were 14-17 and got caught because they got stopped because they didn't turn headlights on after they left.

Another one is when you have contractors working in your home. They will unlock Windows and doors and come back later.


Personally I usually don't answer the front door and wait to see if they come to the back door at my house. Dogs, locked gates, and tempered glass screen doors are your friends.

None of this stuff will keep a professional out

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#6276925 - 04/26/16 10:13 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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I'm armed even watching television. If the doorbell rings the door isn't answered unless we know whom it is. If I chose to answer it my sidearm is in my hand. They may get in, they may kill us all, but they will suffer losses as well.
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#6277013 - 04/26/16 11:50 PM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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My sister and I were back home when I was in college and she was going through a divorce. My parents left for the weekend and my sister was supposed to be flying in around 3am that morning, so I decided to wait up for her. It was raining that night and my beer was in the cooler in the back of the truck, so I would put my boots on, grab a couple and go back inside. There was a motion detector light on the front porch and I would set the alarm each time I came back in.

I was in the back room (down a long hallway from the door) watching tv. No other lights were on. I heard a rattle and "thud" coming from the entrance. It was about 3:15am so I figured my sister had finally made it home and couldn't get in the door. I could tell the porch light had come on and heard another thud as I got closer.

When I got to the entry way, I could tell pretty quick it wasn't my sister. Someone taller and wearing a hood was on the front porch. He kept messing with the knob and would lower his shoulder into the door occasionally.

I went back and grabbed the shotgun I kept by my bed. Honestly, not as much went through my head as I thought it would. I went to one knee in the hallway at the edge of the entry and pointed the gun at the door. There was never a doubt in my mind I was pulling the trigger as soon as he made it through the door. Looking back, there were a lot of things I could of/should of done, but in the moment, that is what I did.

I guess the motion detector only detects motion on the porch and not that close to the door because it went off. It startled him and I saw him look up. Pretty sure at that point, he could see me in the hall and he bolted. Out of reaction, I took off after him (stupid I know). I chased him down the street, around a curve and stopped when he started jumping fences.

On my way back, a neighbor around the corner was out in his garage working on his car and had seen me chasing the guy. I stopped and talk to him and told him the story. We didn't talk long, mainly because I was still in my boots and boxers from my beer run.

When I left and went around the corner, there were two police cars with lights on at the house. Response time was impressive, had to be 6-8 minutes from when I ran out the door. I had forgot about the alarm and triggered it.

I walked to the edge of the property and announced my self. Guns drawn, they disarmed me of my shotgun and began the questions (including all the empties by the tv and I was underage).

Once they figured out I was who I said I was and not some nut running the streets in boots and boxers with s shotgun, they filled out some paperwork and wrote the report. There had been some robberies in the area lately and they assume it was the same guy.

Also got the lecture about pursuing and being armed while I did it.

Anyway, luckily the robber was a complete idiot. Watching the house would have told him I was there as I had been going in and out for beer. Looking in the front window, he should have been able to see the glow from the tv. It did surprise me how quick and easy I resigned myself to the fact that I was going to shoot him though. Sometimes I wondered if it was the alcohol, but life experience taught me later that it probably wasn't.
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#6277092 - 04/27/16 06:56 AM Re: Home invasion [Re: 68A]
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Last week a guy that I work with heard a knock on the door around 8 pm. He went to the door where he was told that it was Dominoes Pizza. He did not order one but thought his wife may have have since she was working late at her job. He opened the door only to find a guy with hooded mask pointing a gun at him. He forced his way into his apartment where he was zip tied up. Burgler asked him where all the valuables were as he dragged him through constantly telling him that he was going to kill him if he did not show him everything. At one point the burgler showed a large Bowie knife asking him if that was all he had as far as cash and jewelry. He told him that if he was lying that he would cut his hands off. After the room were ran sacked, a pillow case was put over my co-workers head where he was told he was going to be shot. He begged for his life repeatedly and began to pray. The burgler asked if he believed in God and my co-worker said yes. The burgler said well I guess he saved your life tonight. The burgler then left. It took about 30 minutes for the cops to arrive after they were called.

FYI: Wife did not like a gun to be in the house, her view point has changed since then and the already have a 9mm.


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#6277262 - 04/27/16 08:50 AM Re: Home invasion [Re: SapperTitan]
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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
... its just giving me an extra couple seconds to get the family into the bedroom, call cops, and grab a gun.


^^^ This. I try to keep in mind things that will slow a crook down to give me a few extra seconds or more. The immediate attack is the hardest one to defend. We had several home invasions in our neighborhood, with similar stories as told above.
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