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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: TB338] #6279693 04/29/16 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bawana59
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Why not just respect his decision. Text or call him it's not that hard.


P.S. This was not directed toward OP. If interested OP will provide everything you need and answer every question. They are worth a look if your truly interested.

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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6280082 04/29/16 02:22 PM
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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: LuckyHunter] #6280782 04/30/16 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: SheepHunter
Originally Posted By: Bawana59
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Why not just respect his decision. Text or call him it's not that hard.


P.S. This was not directed toward OP. If interested OP will provide everything you need and answer every question. They are worth a look if your truly interested.

The SHEEPMONITOR is on patrol !!!


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peep lol444

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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: TB338] #6281763 05/01/16 01:19 AM
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They look a lot like the Hill Country Bighorns Thompson Temple had been breeding. Big Horn, Mouflon, Stumberg, Transcaspian Urial


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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: TMc] #6281939 05/01/16 04:01 AM
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They look a lot like the Hill Country Bighorns Thompson Temple had been breeding. Big Horn, Mouflon, Stumberg, Transcaspian Urial


Thompson has some great sheep in other breeds just not the Hybrid Bighorns.

These are way better output of a Bighorn then Thompson Temples version of the Bighorn Hybrid.

Here are some of his sheep.
http://www.hillcountrybighorns.com/

One thing is when you mix anything with European Mouflon. The Mouflon traits seem to always show through even with a small percentage.

I am wanting to try and crossbreed some 6/8 with a pure embryo or AI and get some to be as close as possible to be pure.

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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282193 05/01/16 03:59 PM
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You have got that breeding program sorted out. Beautiful rams! texas cowboy

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282270 05/01/16 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kimber1911
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They look a lot like the Hill Country Bighorns Thompson Temple had been breeding. Big Horn, Mouflon, Stumberg, Transcaspian Urial


Thompson has some great sheep in other breeds just not the Hybrid Bighorns.

These are way better output of a Bighorn then Thompson Temples version of the Bighorn Hybrid.

Here are some of his sheep.
http://www.hillcountrybighorns.com/

One thing is when you mix anything with European Mouflon. The Mouflon traits seem to always show through even with a small percentage.

I am wanting to try and crossbreed some 6/8 with a pure embryo or AI and get some to be as close as possible to be pure.


I can certainly see the differences and you're absolutely right about the Mouflon traits. Beautiful Rams all around! I'm headed down to Thompsons' this weekend and excited to see what he's got.


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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282497 05/01/16 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kimber1911
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They look a lot like the Hill Country Bighorns Thompson Temple had been breeding. Big Horn, Mouflon, Stumberg, Transcaspian Urial


Thompson has some great sheep in other breeds just not the Hybrid Bighorns.

These are way better output of a Bighorn then Thompson Temples version of the Bighorn Hybrid.

Here are some of his sheep.
http://www.hillcountrybighorns.com/

One thing is when you mix anything with European Mouflon. The Mouflon traits seem to always show through even with a small percentage.

I am wanting to try and crossbreed some 6/8 with a pure embryo or AI and get some to be as close as possible to be pure.


Kimber1911,

It will be interesting to see how you make out. Much of the literature I've read on cross breeding bighorns suggests that pure bighorns are more susceptible to diseases. Maybe with the herd that you have (and the Mouflon pedigree) you will end up with some level of immunity as you move forward. All that said, those are some good looking rams that you have already.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282814 05/02/16 01:10 AM
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Texas A&M has been studying the cross breeding of bighorns for quite along time. Back when I spoke with them about 25 years ago they were cross breeding sheep and only keeping the ewes. They were working to hopefully find answers to helping wild sheep become less susceptible to diseases. They said the key was within the ewes and they had no interest in the rams.
I wonder what the mortality rate is on the ram's. I have not seen any 6/8 until now. Wonder if the 6/8 will be bred back to pure ewes. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282884 05/02/16 01:46 AM
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These Big Rams we have are pushing 10 years old.

They are very hardy.

We are in the process for this upcoming year to go back up to Texas A&M to crossbreed back to 100% pure Bighorn. Then they will be as close to pure as possible. We should have around 15 offspring possibly more if any have twins.

Which for the Rams it will be 8-10 years out on them to be shooters.

We have our ewes as well of course which they are the key to this breeding operation.

Our goal is to get pure as possible to sale ram hunts at the fraction of the cost of a bighorn hunt.

allot of people dream about harvesting a bighorn ram but with the pricing its will never happen for the majority of the hunters out there.

I have 5 Rams that are all uppers 30's a couple might touch 40" plus mark.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6282962 05/02/16 02:34 AM
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The difficulty of drawing a trophy unit tag for bighorn is a bigger obstacle than the cost I would argue.
Those of us that put in for tags every year have a financial plan.

Your sheep will fill a niche for sure.

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For a Bighorn 40" would probably be B&C material.....so you are doing something right smile

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: RHutch] #6282970 05/02/16 02:40 AM
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The difficulty of drawing a trophy unit tag for bighorn is a bigger obstacle than the cost I would argue.
Those of us that put in for tags every year have a financial plan.

Your sheep will fill a niche for sure.


Well depends where you draw a tag if your ever so lucky.

Most states require you to have a guide and just for that most are $20,000 plus to guide.

They have a monopoly on it due to the state requires you to have a guide and they charge a premium price.

My old Mexico Desert Bighorns for $35,000 sale quite well being as their reasonably priced.

That is our plans to achieve people's life long dreams of killing a Bighorn.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6283724 05/02/16 06:48 PM
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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6290247 05/07/16 03:28 AM
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I got a deposit pending on one.

We still have more available.

I can say these pictures do not do them justice. A few fellow THF members have seen the sheep in person and were blown away.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6291869 05/09/16 02:36 AM
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I have a hunter booked for this big guy. We should have him on the ground within a month.

I still have 4 monster left to hunt.


Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6297204 05/13/16 03:34 AM
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I have a fellow THF me member debating about shooting another one of these amazing Rams

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6303441 05/19/16 04:20 AM
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These sheep are truly a rare find and will make amazing mounts.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6304003 05/19/16 05:07 PM
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Awesome looking animals. I hope it works out and you get that 7/8 bighorn thing up and running. Can see some mouflon in these, but the prominence of bighorn is unmistakable. Very, very cool stuff.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6304064 05/19/16 05:45 PM
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I'm not interested in one, but I enjoyed the pictures and the info. Thanks!


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Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6319375 06/02/16 07:31 AM
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The Rams have finished transitioning their coats and look awesome.

The pictures truly do not do them justice.

If all goes well and the weather is good we will be hunting one next week.

Re: Rocky Mt. Bighorn Hybrid Hunts. [Re: Kimber1911] #6339420 06/18/16 06:49 AM
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I still have some amazing Hybrid Bighorns available. As stated before the pictures do not do these Rams justice.

There will be pictures and a story to come soon from a fellow THF member and his Exeperience with me on his amazIng trip.

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Robert, I have seen the pictures from the hunt (the ram and lodge). In my opinion you delivered as promised and more.

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I'm looking forward to hunt details

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