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#6265168 - 04/18/16 10:48 AM ATV Title Question
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I am considering purchasing a used ATV/UTV for hunting my property in East TX. I spoke to gentleman about one but he does not have a title. He said it was never titled because it was originally purchased in Oklahoma and they don't require titles. He will provide a notarized bill of sale. How difficult is it to get a title if it never had one?
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#6265262 - 04/18/16 11:44 AM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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It seems to me that as long as you keep it off of public roadways you don't necessarily need the title; bill of sale would be fine for proof of ownership. On the other hand, if you are planning on making it street legal then the story might change.

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#6265269 - 04/18/16 11:48 AM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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I would contact DVR. Even if you haul it on a trailer for hunting TPWD and TDPs are checking for stolen and need a title.
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#6265319 - 04/18/16 12:26 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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Oklahoma DMV

Might be worth a read...


"All-terrain vehicles (ATVs) and off-road motorcycles (ORMs) must be registered and titled in Oklahoma.
Register your ATV or ORM at your local tag office by completing an Application for Oklahoma Certificate of Title for a Vehicle (Form 701-6) and providing the manufacturer's certificate of origin or the original title signed over to you. You'll also need to provide a copy of the invoice or bill of sale you received when you bought the vehicle.
You'll follow the same registration and titling procedures as you would to register your standard car. Visit our Register Car in Oklahoma page for more information.
It will cost you $11 to title your ATV or off-road motorcycle with the Oklahoma Tax Commission."

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#6265484 - 04/18/16 02:19 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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If you get stopped they will check it for being stolen. Even if your hauling it on a trailer. They will pull you over just to check it. A bill of sale will not prevent them from confiscating it if it's reported stolen and possibly arresting you if they think they need to. These things get stolen all the time. The excuse he gave you is bogus.


Edited by Pitchfork Predator (04/18/16 02:22 PM)
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#6265528 - 04/18/16 02:42 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
If you get stopped they will check it for being stolen. Even if your hauling it on a trailer. They will pull you over just to check it. A bill of sale will not prevent them from confiscating it if it's reported stolen and possibly arresting you if they think they need to. These things get stolen all the time. The excuse he gave you is bogus.


Realistically what are the chances of getting pulled over for just hauling a 4 wheeler? 4 wheelers are sold all the time without a title. I agree it is definitely safer to have one, but at the same time if you are using it only on private property I'd say the risk is relatively low in having an issue. I could be wrong but just my opinion. Another question, is it even legal to be pulled over just because you have a 4 wheeler on a trailer? That sounds like a really big stretch of probably cause.


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#6265537 - 04/18/16 02:47 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: rexmitchell]
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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
If you get stopped they will check it for being stolen. Even if your hauling it on a trailer. They will pull you over just to check it. A bill of sale will not prevent them from confiscating it if it's reported stolen and possibly arresting you if they think they need to. These things get stolen all the time. The excuse he gave you is bogus.


Realistically what are the chances of getting pulled over for just hauling a 4 wheeler? 4 wheelers are sold all the time without a title. I agree it is definitely safer to have one, but at the same time if you are using it only on private property I'd say the risk is relatively low in having an issue. I could be wrong but just my opinion. Another question, is it even legal to be pulled over just because you have a 4 wheeler on a trailer? That sounds like a really big stretch of probably cause.


Realistically, the chances are pretty good. I was stopped once and told it was to check the ATV because they had a lot being stolen. As far as being sold all the time without a title, I've NEVER bought one without one and have owned several.
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#6265548 - 04/18/16 02:54 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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Originally Posted By: BigDad
I am considering purchasing a used ATV/UTV for hunting my property in East TX. I spoke to gentleman about one but he does not have a title. He said it was never titled because it was originally purchased in Oklahoma and they don't require titles. He will provide a notarized bill of sale. How difficult is it to get a title if it never had one?


You can get the vin/ serial number and see if it has been stolen other then that. There isn't a hard title requirement in Texas, since you don't have to register it. Always get a Bill of Sale though

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#6265551 - 04/18/16 03:02 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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ive bought several in Texas, and there;s no title if paid in cash, only if financed, even new ones
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#6265559 - 04/18/16 03:11 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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You should still get the Certificate of Origin, that comes will all news ones iirc Makes ownership claim easier if it does get stolen and is similar to a title when needed to borrow on it as Vernon said. Bill of sale should be had on anything bought of value.
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#6265567 - 04/18/16 03:17 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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ive bought several in Texas, and there;s no title if paid in cash, only if financed, even new ones


I paid cash for my last one and I'm sitting here looking at the title.
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#6265600 - 04/18/16 03:41 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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ATVs have been required to be titled since 1985.

UTVs since 2009 (with very limited farm use exceptions).


Edited by Nogalus Prairie (04/18/16 03:41 PM)
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#6265611 - 04/18/16 03:47 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
If you get stopped they will check it for being stolen. Even if your hauling it on a trailer. They will pull you over just to check it. A bill of sale will not prevent them from confiscating it if it's reported stolen and possibly arresting you if they think they need to. These things get stolen all the time. The excuse he gave you is bogus.


Realistically what are the chances of getting pulled over for just hauling a 4 wheeler? 4 wheelers are sold all the time without a title. I agree it is definitely safer to have one, but at the same time if you are using it only on private property I'd say the risk is relatively low in having an issue. I could be wrong but just my opinion. Another question, is it even legal to be pulled over just because you have a 4 wheeler on a trailer? That sounds like a really big stretch of probably cause.


Realistically, the chances are pretty good. I was stopped once and told it was to check the ATV because they had a lot being stolen. As far as being sold all the time without a title, I've NEVER bought one without one and have owned several.



Who is pulling you over and where? What were you doing? That would be like stopping every pickup truck because they are getting stolen a lot, it doesn't make sense.
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#6265630 - 04/18/16 04:01 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: BigDad]
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Game warden. Do not remember what county I was in, on the way to a hunting lease. Driving down the road.


Edited by Pitchfork Predator (04/18/16 04:08 PM)
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#6265646 - 04/18/16 04:07 PM Re: ATV Title Question [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Game warden. Do not remember what county I was in, on the way to a hunting lease. Driving down the road. Are you inferring that I just made it up?


No, nor am I doubting you. Again, that just doesn't make sense....Makes a little more sense that it was a GW, but still that is a real stretch of the law to pull over anyone hauling an ATV just because they are hauling it. You are the only person I've heard that happening to. It might make sense if you were leaving a public hunting area, or something like that but just driving down the road, he must have been bored.
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