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#6252188 - 04/08/16 11:03 AM Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean?
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question: law state this: A hunter may not:

hunt migratory birds with the aid of bait, or on or over any baited area.

The place I dove hunt also has deer hunters who feed year around. Their feeder is about 200 yards from where I hunt. However sometimes while walking the fence line I get to with in 75 yards of the feeder. What distance must I stay away from a deer feeder. I'm sure that a lot of us have this same problem, but I cant find anything except "hunt over a baited area." Thanks for helping me out with this question.
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#6252206 - 04/08/16 11:17 AM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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You best bet is ask the GW for that, they all have different opinions on that.
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#6252224 - 04/08/16 11:35 AM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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Our game warden told us, "If I can see a deer feeder, you are too close and it is considered a baited area." Consequently, we don't hunt dove.
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#6252243 - 04/08/16 12:00 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: BenBob]
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Originally Posted By: BenBob
Our game warden told us, "If I can see a deer feeder, you are too close and it is considered a baited area." Consequently, we don't hunt dove.


Thats is what I was afraid of!
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#6252248 - 04/08/16 12:02 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
question: law state this: A hunter may not:

hunt migratory birds with the aid of bait, or on or over any baited area.

Distance has nothing to do with it, other than, the closer you are to it, the stronger a case can be made that you are using bait as an aid to kill birds (all other things constant). But the word "aid" is the key word and "hunting over". "Hunting over bait" is clear cut, using bait as an "aid" is not so clear. If there is a deer feeder on your property, and no dove are flying to the bait, then you are not using bait as an aid to kill birds. If however, a deer feeder is 1000 yards away, on a neighbors property, out of sight, birds are flocking to the bait, and you pattern the birds, which happen to fly over your property on their way to the bait, then you are breaking the law, you are using bait as an aid to kill birds.

The spirit of the law is pretty clear jmo, and this would be your argument in court. But everyone will tell you something different on this one, including GWs.

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#6252319 - 04/08/16 01:28 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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I don't like shooting around a feeder as one might hit the feeder.
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#6252414 - 04/08/16 03:00 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: wal1809]
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Originally Posted By: wal1809
I don't like shooting around a feeder as one might hit the feeder.

If you shoot them flying should not be an issue, but if you skillet shoot them when they are all around the feeder, this can be problematic, kinda like shooting your decoys.

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#6252543 - 04/08/16 05:11 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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if there is a feeder on your property you can get a ticket --- period------------ if its a 1000 acres and you are on the other end you are subject to a ticket , I have seen a ticket a game warden gave in bell county,,, a deer feeder that was in about 2 feet of water dispensing fish food, the dove hunters 600 yards away were ticketed. If you think a game warden will be reasonable(its possible, but unlikely) you have not had much exposure to them. As usual Federal are worse than state. Game warden's job is to produce revenue,,, not to be reasonable.
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#6252572 - 04/08/16 05:45 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: dune2218]
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Originally Posted By: dune2218
if there is a feeder on your property you can get a ticket --- period------------

if there is NOT a feeder on your property you can get a ticket --- period------------

Using bait as an aid, has nothing to do if feeder is on your property or not. If feeder is on neighbors property, you can get a ticket as well.

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#6252591 - 04/08/16 06:09 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: dune2218]
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Originally Posted By: dune2218
if there is a feeder on your property you can get a ticket --- period------------ if its a 1000 acres and you are on the other end you are subject to a ticket , I have seen a ticket a game warden gave in bell county,,, a deer feeder that was in about 2 feet of water dispensing fish food, the dove hunters 600 yards away were ticketed. If you think a game warden will be reasonable(its possible, but unlikely) you have not had much exposure to them. As usual Federal are worse than state. Game warden's job is to produce revenue,,, not to be reasonable.

Not sure what kind of Game Wardens you've dealt with, but most of them are great and reasonable guys. If you believe the doves may be there because of the feeder, don't hunt there. Just be smart about it and the game wardens will be reasonable as long as it is the right thing. I've hunted less than 500 yards from a feeder while talking to a game warden. Its all about what is happening in that specific situation. Hope that helps


Edited by bow5 (04/08/16 06:13 PM)
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#6252814 - 04/08/16 09:54 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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SO would hunting next to cattle feed pens be the same?
How is a feeder any different than hunting in sunflower fields or rice fields?

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#6252823 - 04/08/16 10:03 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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My dog trainer in Burnet Tx, has about 60 acres,,,, he drove up to his property to find a sign on the gate saying no hunting. Almost 2 miles away they busted some guy that had dumped a dump truck of grain, milo I think, in his field. There was no hunting in a 2 mile circle of the grain----------- that sounds reasonable to you??? One of the neighbors had called the Feds and turned the guy in. None of the guy's neighbors could hunt the rest of the season. The unintended consequences -------- last year, he did it again,, this time no one turned him in , or they would have not been able to hunt on their land either.
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#6252843 - 04/08/16 10:25 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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Loc: Temple, tx
I just posted this in 'open hunting discussion' forum. Here is a rather dramatic example of a game warden 'raid' in Bell County. this was 1992. Ticketed were 39 hunters, including the sheriff, county attorney, 2 justice of the peace, and a captain in the local state game wardens. Ex state district judge was the host of the hunt. Kind of an interesting read if anyone is interested. I can tell you NONE of these guys had any clue that the place was baited.

[url=news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19921206&id=SThSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=azYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=3113,4999593&hl=enhttp://]Ex-state district judge fined $10,000[/url]
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#6252846 - 04/08/16 10:28 PM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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#6252909 - 04/09/16 12:23 AM Re: Hunting over a baited area. What does that mean? [Re: Mr. T.]
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Loc: Hill Country
That is very interesting, that would suck...
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