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#6249557 - 04/06/16 05:24 AM Help with Quail-Jack County
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I recently picked up a wildlife exemption and part of my plan is to restore some sort of quail population on my 40 acre property. Can I buy ready to fly birds and expect them to hang. I have plenty of good habitat for them and minimal predation. Any suggestions from ya'll?


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#6249703 - 04/06/16 08:30 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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The best I can tell you is, "they'll hang till something kills them". That was my findings. But honestly, penraised birds just don't seem to have the strong will to live of wild ones.
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#6249748 - 04/06/16 09:13 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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Depends on what you are looking for? If you just want to let birds go to hear them occasionally you could do that on a repeating basis and maybe get a few to hang around longer. If you plan on hunting then you would just have to put birds out before you go to 'hunt' them every time. A single covey takes about 20 acres of perfectly mixed habitat so at most you could only expect 2-3 coveys on your property. We let birds go in November for some put and take hunting and our neighbor says he is still seeing 2 coveys 5 months later, but that would amount to less than 5% of the total birds we let loose.

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#6250342 - 04/06/16 06:58 PM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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I've had them go feral from my Johnny house and reproduce.
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#6250836 - 04/07/16 08:14 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: mattyg06]
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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
A single covey takes about 20 acres of perfectly mixed habitat so at most you could only expect 2-3 coveys on your property.


scratch
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#6251044 - 04/07/16 10:55 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: First_Chance]
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Originally Posted By: First_Chance
Originally Posted By: mattyg06
A single covey takes about 20 acres of perfectly mixed habitat so at most you could only expect 2-3 coveys on your property.


scratch


Whats got you confused there First_Chance?

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#6251116 - 04/07/16 12:32 PM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: mattyg06]
bill oxner Offline
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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
Originally Posted By: First_Chance
Originally Posted By: mattyg06
A single covey takes about 20 acres of perfectly mixed habitat so at most you could only expect 2-3 coveys on your property.


scratch


Whats got you confused there First_Chance?


Thirty coveys per section is about max.
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#6251643 - 04/07/16 08:28 PM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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Billy Bob -------- you are getting the usual responses from non-hunters---------- #1--- released quail will not live/breed in the wild. period. #2 If your neighbors have good habitat for quail, you may have quail on your property occasionally. 40 acres is not enough property to worry about quail. I assume this has nothing to do with hunting,,, you'd just like to have some quail there. . You can feed them for fun, and attract them with food, but you will not have a dependable covey live on 40 acres,, its just not enough land.
first chance had it right,,,,,, 2-3 coveys-------- scratch
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#6251998 - 04/08/16 08:36 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: dune2218]
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Granted this was an exceptional year, but we had a 60ac pasture in our hunting rotation (of over 10,000 acres in S. TX) this year and we hit it twice this season. It produced 18 coveys the first time and 22 coveys the second (all wild birds). This pasture was not one that was surrounded by endless habitat either... it was more or less isolated. I'm not going to get into an argument about it because I'm positive that the "average" number is much different, but it has been my experience that it does not take 20ac of perfect habitat to support one covey of quail.
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#6252054 - 04/08/16 09:20 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: First_Chance]
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Originally Posted By: First_Chance
Granted this was an exceptional year, but we had a 60ac pasture in our hunting rotation (of over 10,000 acres in S. TX) this year and we hit it twice this season. It produced 18 coveys the first time and 22 coveys the second (all wild birds). This pasture was not one that was surrounded by endless habitat either... it was more or less isolated. I'm not going to get into an argument about it because I'm positive that the "average" number is much different, but it has been my experience that it does not take 20ac of perfect habitat to support one covey of quail.


That's 5 quail per acre. I don't think 60 acres would hold 300 birds over the long run.
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#6252066 - 04/08/16 09:31 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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Lots try to reintroduce quail and many fail. Johnny house will help in theory, hard effort to kill all predators (good luck) is required and specific crops to provide feed needs all seasons. I agree 40 acres is too small to control and create proper envirionments. Do the Wildlife Habitat program to keep taxes low kill ants and pigs and planr feed plots
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#6252080 - 04/08/16 09:41 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Originally Posted By: First_Chance
Granted this was an exceptional year, but we had a 60ac pasture in our hunting rotation (of over 10,000 acres in S. TX) this year and we hit it twice this season. It produced 18 coveys the first time and 22 coveys the second (all wild birds). This pasture was not one that was surrounded by endless habitat either... it was more or less isolated. I'm not going to get into an argument about it because I'm positive that the "average" number is much different, but it has been my experience that it does not take 20ac of perfect habitat to support one covey of quail.


That's 5 quail per acre. I don't think 60 acres would hold 300 birds over the long run.


Completely agree.
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#6252963 - 04/09/16 06:36 AM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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After reading your responses, which I thank you for, I've decided not to bring quail in. My plan will have to focus on WT, ducks and turkey...which I have plenty. Guess I'll have to bum a few from Oxner to get rid of my annual need for quail meat.
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#6254533 - 04/10/16 03:34 PM Re: Help with Quail-Jack County [Re: billybob]
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Originally Posted By: billybob
Guess I'll have to bum a few from Oxner to get rid of my annual need for quail meat.


That would be Beaversnipe.

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