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#6248975 - 04/05/16 04:16 PM CCW loaded or no?
Arrowslinger82 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/14
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Having a debate at work. My boss who has his concealed and me who is waiting on the plastic to get here... He doesn't carry one in the chamber, I would think it makes the most sense to carry one in the chamber. What do yall say?

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#6248996 - 04/05/16 04:28 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
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I don't carry one in the chamber. 10 years of CHL, never have, never will. I live my life based on probabilities. The probability of me ever needing to use my CCW is much, much, much lower than the probability of an AD. Never had to use my CCW, never had an AD, would like to avoid both. I focus my efforts on not putting myself in situations where my CCW is needed.

I'm sure there will be plenty of folks come along that say carrying an unloaded pistol isn't worth carrying at all. That's a tired argument.

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#6249010 - 04/05/16 04:38 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
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Proper and competent handling of the firearm goes a long way toward avoiding an AD.

If you're going to carry with an empty chamber, then you need to drill religiously to make sure you'll actually rack the slide when the chips are down. I know many think they're always going to be calm, cool, and collected under stress, but there's a reason professionals train hard. This is one of the reasons for Glock and similar actions---you'll pretty much always pull the trigger when needed, but things like disengaging safeties and racking slides are NOT the things you'll do automatically unless you've actually trained with real zeal. Probably 98% are best off with something like a Glock or an XD with a round in the chamber.
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#6249025 - 04/05/16 04:46 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
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I carry one in the chamber but won't fault anyone who doesn't feel comfortable doing so. I assume I'll have the freedom to use both hands should God forbid the need arises to draw my weapon, but who knows? The only handgun I would ever consider carrying without a round "in battery" for lack of a better phrase, is a double action revover. I carry a J-Frame 'Smith quite a bit, and doing so would further limit the capacity from five to to four, and I don't want any part of that. Just me, though.
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#6249027 - 04/05/16 04:47 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
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If you want to carry an unloaded gun for protection you might as well carry a damn rock in your pocket. Bad guy isn't going to give you time to draw and rack your slide before he kills you. If a person can cover 21ft with a knife before most people can even draw their weapons from concealment what do you think is going to happen during that extra second or two it takes you rack one in the chamber? Hint: It's not going to be good.

I carry a G27 with one in the chamber every day, keep your damn fingers out of the trigger guard and you'll be fine. Be mindful if you're drawing your gun and re-holstering, make sure your shirt isn't balled up and sticking through the trigger guard. All easy things to do if you're just mindful.
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#6249031 - 04/05/16 04:53 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
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I can't say I would carry unloaded. When you need it most chances are good you won't have time to rack a round before it's too late. If you are worried about it going off maybe carry something with a safety. Much faster to get ready to go in my opinion.

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#6249034 - 04/05/16 04:54 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: KRoyal]
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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
If you want to carry an unloaded gun for protection you might as well carry a damn rock in your pocket. Bad guy isn't going to give you time to draw and rack your slide before he kills you. If a person can cover 21ft with a knife before most people can even draw their weapons from concealment what do you think is going to happen during that extra second or two it takes you rack one in the chamber? Hint: It's not going to be good.

I carry a G27 with one in the chamber every day, keep your damn fingers out of the trigger guard and you'll be fine. Be mindful if you're drawing your gun and re-holstering, make sure your shirt isn't balled up and sticking through the trigger guard. All easy things to do if you're just mindful.


If they passed a law tomorrow that you could only CCW with an unchambered weapon, would you leave your gun at home and replace it with a rock in your pocket?

Should I also consider only carrying fixed blade knives since an automatic folder would take too much time to flip open?

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#6249051 - 04/05/16 05:06 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
Tim9880 Offline
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I would never CCW without a round in the chamber. That being said, if I did, I would spend xtra time at the range practicing drawing and racking slide off of a sturdy belt, kneeling and racking off of back of shoe, etc. in case of the time comes and my other hand is busy, I could make the gun work.

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#6249056 - 04/05/16 05:09 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
jeepercreeper Online   content
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Glad to see none of you guys posted up in this thread:

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6171214/1

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#6249078 - 04/05/16 05:24 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
ChadTRG42 Online   happy
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Registered: 09/16/09
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It makes ZERO sense to carry a pistol with no round in the chamber. With proper training, that is the way to go.
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#6249091 - 04/05/16 05:33 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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Loc: Central Texas
I spotted a trend in that thread. Not one single handgun was in a proper holster minding its own business when it went off.
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#6249092 - 04/05/16 05:33 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
TexFlip Online   content
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Loc: Harris County
If you aren't confident enough with your capabilities to carry one in the pope don't. It doesn't affect the way I carry.
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#6249094 - 04/05/16 05:34 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
mikei Online   content
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I carry loaded (pistol). My home defense weapon is loaded (revolver). My "vehicle" defense weapons are primed, but nothing chambered (bullpup shotgun and pistol), as I feel that I may have enough response time in a vehicular scenario to react to a threat. My vehicles are always locked down and windows rolled up to provide me with a first line of defense.

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#6249120 - 04/05/16 05:50 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
Buzzsaw Offline
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Loc: Frisco, Texas
Had to think about this for a second or two, but I believe it's up to the individual to make sure his gun is safe.

This goes in my pocket every day and is next to me on the end table as I type this. I try to make it a point to ALWAYS physically check the safety every time I pick it up, even when its in my pocket, I double check all day long the safety is still engaged. I damn sure don't want a 95gr XTP through my leg


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#6249125 - 04/05/16 05:53 PM Re: CCW loaded or no? [Re: Arrowslinger82]
gusick Offline
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Registered: 07/19/13
Posts: 1291
I keep a round in the chamber. If I need to handle the gun out of the holster, I unload it at that time. I don't worry about ADs much while the gun is in a holster.

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