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#6238856 - 03/28/16 08:49 AM Guide Tipping
el Pollo Loco Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 09/24/13
Posts: 4
So I'm going to New Zealand next year on a Red Stag hunt. I've never been hunting with an outfitter/guide before and I'm wondering what's considered the normal tipping practice? There's an animal fee as well as a daily guide fee. So do I base my tip off the total hunt price, the guide fee, the animal fee....or nothing at all since I'm already paying a daily guide fee? My guide is also the owner/outfitter if that makes any difference. Thanks in advance....


Edited by el Pollo Loco (03/28/16 02:09 PM)

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#6238869 - 03/28/16 09:02 AM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
mseanw Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 07/05/15
Posts: 23
I was in New Zealand a year ago for stag, tahr, 2 fallow.
I had a great guide and great trip. A lot of people will say tip 10-15% of total hunt cost.
That can add up quickly. I trusted and liked my guide. I had an open conversation with him about the subject
so that neither of us be uncomfortable at the end.
If I remember right I tipped about 10% of the trophy fee total ($2000 tip.)
He was very happy and there was no weirdness. Trying to go back with him next year for Chamois.

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#6238995 - 03/28/16 10:46 AM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
el Pollo Loco Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 09/24/13
Posts: 4
Thanks for the the reply....i was hoping that I didn't need to shell out another $1500 tip frown

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#6239351 - 03/28/16 04:04 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
Troubador Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 05/22/12
Posts: 486
i shot a $500 ram and paid him $650 total. to me its based off how well you like the guy but also the time of the hunt. if you go out first morning and shoot 2 animals and you leave i may tip less than if it took me 3-4 hunts to get my 2 animals. the hunt cost the same but the guide had to do way less and took way less time.

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#6239388 - 03/28/16 04:38 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
rickym Offline
Extreme Tracker

Registered: 06/14/15
Posts: 3861
Loc: texas
Based it off of the effort the guide puts in, animals taken and most of all how satisfied are you with your experience. 10% will be a standard starting point almost everywhere. You pay higher or lower based on what you think the guy deserves
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#6239389 - 03/28/16 04:39 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
buck wild Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 01/10/12
Posts: 221
here's a good article about the subject

http://www.africahunting.com/threads/tipping-guide.183/

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#6239415 - 03/28/16 05:07 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
Creekrunner Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 10/19/12
Posts: 7157
Loc: Bexar/Gillespie, hunt Terrell
From the reams of comments on Africa tipping, I think the consensus is 10% of the daily rate. That's what I've always done, usually rounding up if the PH/guide works hard. I realize it's not Africa, but I think it's still a good guideline.

Have a great time in New Zealand.
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#6239865 - 03/28/16 10:22 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: Creekrunner]
matpk Offline
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Registered: 03/06/15
Posts: 754
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In my opinion tipping is something which comes out of your pocket spontaneously,
For the services rendered...hence can not be pre-determined.

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#6240049 - 03/29/16 07:28 AM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
EddieWalker Offline
Pro Tracker

Registered: 08/06/14
Posts: 1171
Loc: Tyler, TX
I tip what I'm comfortable spending, and what I feel the guide earned. Most I've ever given is $800. I don't go by the ten percent rule, or what they say over at Africa Hunting. I've found that what is written isn't really what happens most of the time. I think it's more of a suggestion to try to get hunters to tip more. Of all the guides I've met and talked to, the amount given is all over the place.

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#6240105 - 03/29/16 08:11 AM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
Nogalus Prairie Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 11/22/10
Posts: 19242
Loc: Corsicana
I have been on one seriously high $$ hunt. I tipped my guide $1000. I am going on another next year. Maybe I am a tightwad, but my plan is to tip $1000 again if the guide is a good one (that would be about 5%). I may do $1500 if he is really above and beyond.

On the sheep hunt I went on I learned that the guides got a "bonus" if the hunter harvests an animal in that particular outfit. I also learned that tipping is all over the board from many who don't tip at all to a few who will throw down some big $$. My guide became my friend and told me that my tip was very generous and above the norm.

I generally follow the 10% rule but IMO when a hunt costs above 10K a "cap" is in order. And IMO it depends on the "guiding" received. A backcountry wilderness guide literally has your life in his hands the entire time. Plus works like crazy. That is far different than most guides.

It is a personal thing. YMMV.
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#6240480 - 03/29/16 01:57 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
el Pollo Loco Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 09/24/13
Posts: 4
Thanks again for all the replies. I think I might just bring it up with the guide. I can see tipping way more if it was a back country hunt where he is packing everything in, guiding, cooking and what not. But for a guy who owns the land, the lodge and is his own guide I can't see tipping that much.

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#6241141 - 03/29/16 10:23 PM Re: Guide Tipping [Re: el Pollo Loco]
Lonnie Paul Walker Jr. Offline
Pro Tracker

Registered: 07/29/10
Posts: 1877
Loc: Santo, TX
I agree they are all over the board. I have made over $60K in a season of hunting on tips alone. There is more an more sorry guides and outfitters every year seems like. A good guide that is respectful and puts your hunting success and happiness first needs to be rewarded for the effort!
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