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#6235535 - 03/24/16 03:40 PM Omega owners - poi shift ?
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How much change do you average using the omega?

Bolt gun?
AR?

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#6235562 - 03/24/16 03:54 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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They will have a varying shift, depending on the barrel, barrel length, barrel thickness, and bedding. For your rifle, though, it will be a repeatable shift and can be corrected for.
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#6235569 - 03/24/16 03:58 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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It won't help you shoot any better bolt
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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#6235615 - 03/24/16 04:35 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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Honestly I've never shot my 6.8 w/o it, so I don't really know. However, there is a possibility that the first shot and all subsequent shots in a string are not hitting the same spot. Here are two different 100yd 5 shot groups:

High shot, then four together (6.8 SPC, Fed Fusion 115gr.) 16" RRA with ASR Brake and Omega
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Low shot, then four together (5.56, Hornady .223 55gr Varmint Express) 18" RRA with ASR Flash Hider and Omega
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#6235722 - 03/24/16 06:23 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
It won't help you shoot any better bolt


True but even if I get one you will still need the 10 point bonus stage to beat me cheers


Edited by Brother in-law (03/24/16 06:23 PM)

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#6235861 - 03/24/16 08:17 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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I only got 6 on that stage. Some people cleaned the prairie dogs loser8
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#6235864 - 03/24/16 08:20 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: BigPig]
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Blind hog finds an acorn every now and then

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#6235879 - 03/24/16 08:30 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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You'll learn what the rifle does in no time. You can zero the scope to the cold bore shot, for hunting purposes, or you can zero to where it starts to group like QuitShootinYoungBucks pointed out.

My 7-08 is zeroed to the cold bore, but subsequent shots will be .3 MIL low. But I know that, so it's not a problem.
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#6235930 - 03/24/16 09:15 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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Have a birthday coming up and I'm pitching ideas

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#6235935 - 03/24/16 09:21 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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Once you hunt suppressed, you'll (almost) never hunt with an unsupressed rifle ever again.
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#6235939 - 03/24/16 09:24 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
You'll learn what the rifle does in no time. You can zero the scope to the cold bore shot, for hunting purposes, or you can zero to where it starts to group like QuitShootinYoungBucks pointed out.

My 7-08 is zeroed to the cold bore, but subsequent shots will be .3 MIL low. But I know that, so it's not a problem.


Do you see a similar POI change from cold bore to subsequent shots without the suppressor?
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#6235968 - 03/24/16 09:39 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: BigPig]
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Nope.

My educated theory is as the barrel heats up it becomes more flexible. More flexible means more sine wave on the muzzle causing it to open up the consistentcy.

But my suppressor is 10" and 26 oz. So that makes the opening up more pronounced. Cut the weight down to 16 oz. on a non-magnum rated suppressor, and it would shoot more consistently cold bore to warm barrel.
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#6235969 - 03/24/16 09:40 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: FiremanJG]
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I doubt it unless I build more rifles. I can't stand long rifles, they are not practical for 90% of my styles.
I'm thinking of building a stubby soon , I just don't know what caliber yet.

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#6235970 - 03/24/16 09:41 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: BigPig]
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The 7 Rem Mag was load developed without suppressor, and it'll shoot perfect center all the way out to 800, at will. Add the suppressor and it goes to poop. 26" "lighter" barrel than all the other rifles.
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#6235971 - 03/24/16 09:42 PM Re: Omega owners - poi shift ? [Re: Brother in-law]
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
I doubt it unless I build more rifles. I can't stand long rifles, they are not practical for 90% of my styles.
I'm thinking of building a stubby soon , I just don't know what caliber yet.


One of the calibers you already have...
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