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#6232892 - 03/22/16 03:31 PM Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG)
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#6232899 - 03/22/16 03:37 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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Well, chit. might as well throw in the 9, 40, vs 45 debate, too, while we're at it! Eh, I'd go 10mm.
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#6232910 - 03/22/16 03:47 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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I'd provide links, but don't have the time right now. Search Precision Rifle Series competitor equipment. I know a few hold-outs that have recently switched from MOA to MIL, Chad being one of them. He, like I, will tell you Mils are easier to use in dynamic shooting situations. Judd (veteran bench-rester) even purchased a Mil scope, and he too agrees.

Just a look at SWFA.com will show you how many turreted scopes, with matching reticles are available in each system. There are more in the market in Mils. Wonder why that is?

MOA has its place in F-class, and bench rest, but that's it, in my opinion.

Care to see a windage chart of both? Give me a cartridge you shoot, with what bullet you shoot.
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#6232916 - 03/22/16 03:52 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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I have always liked MOA, and there's nothing wrong with that. I still have several MOA scopes and use them. If you plan to "use" a scope, meaning dial the turrets like they were meant to be used for longer range shooting, or to dial in your scope with much more ease, mils is the way to go. It IS a simpler system with much quicker adjustments.
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#6232943 - 03/22/16 04:16 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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#6232966 - 03/22/16 04:29 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: FiremanJG]
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My apologies to FiremanJG - I recognized a long time ago reading your posts that this is a heartfelt topic for you; I wasn't challenging your position and was simply having fun with the post which I knew would be of interest to you. After seeing you preach (saying that nicely) about the subject and reading quite a bit of material outside of THF I have also crossed over (in logic though not yet with equipment).

Cheers.

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#6233035 - 03/22/16 05:13 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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No apologies needed. I though this was just a simple discussion, for others to see and maybe pick up a tip or two.
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#6233067 - 03/22/16 05:34 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: FiremanJG]
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Ah yes, absolutely. I misunderstood your post.
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#6233072 - 03/22/16 05:38 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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#6233195 - 03/22/16 07:15 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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Care to see a windage chart of both? Give me a cartridge you shoot, with what bullet you shoot.


.458 SOCOM
Case Trim 1.573"
CCI 350 Primer
405 gr. Remington Jacketed Soft Point: Bullet Length = 1.0" SD 276 BC .281
36.5 grains Alliant Reloder-7
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#6233198 - 03/22/16 07:18 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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All have their purposes. I use mil in comp and moa on other things. I really don't care provided the turrets match the reticle.
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#6233216 - 03/22/16 07:39 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: flintknapper]
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Originally Posted By: flintknapper
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Care to see a windage chart of both? Give me a cartridge you shoot, with what bullet you shoot.


.458 SOCOM
Case Trim 1.573"
CCI 350 Primer
405 gr. Remington Jacketed Soft Point: Bullet Length = 1.0" SD 276 BC .281
36.5 grains Alliant Reloder-7
1660 FPS average
16" PacNor Super Match Barrel, 1:14 twist


How far you plan on shooting that?

What's the BC on that bullet?
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#6233218 - 03/22/16 07:40 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
All have their purposes. I use mil in comp and moa on other things. I really don't care provided the turrets match the reticle.


Why use Mils in competition, dee?

stir
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#6233231 - 03/22/16 07:48 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: Mickey Moose]
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It all has its place.

If I was interested in the same game as JG plays, I'd probably approach it very much like he does. But I'm not interested in that...and I don't care to be twisting turrets either. I'll stick to old school MOA reticles and holdovers with my sporter-weight, classic walnut-stocked rifles shooting bullets built for toughness, weight retention, and penetration.

There are as many approaches to the gun sports as there are participants, I'm sure.
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#6233248 - 03/22/16 08:02 PM Re: Mil vs MoA Polls (Attention: FiremanJG) [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: dee
All have their purposes. I use mil in comp and moa on other things. I really don't care provided the turrets match the reticle.


Why use Mils in competition, dee?

stir


When in Rome.... I never tried moa in anything except bench shooting.
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