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#6217672 - 03/10/16 10:34 AM 300 Blackout
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Just got off the phone with Smith and Wesson and told me I could change out my upper with the 300 blackout upper. I have a Smith and Wesson M&P15 Sport. Does anyone have personal experience with this modification? Do I need to switch out my bolt as well?

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#6217675 - 03/10/16 10:36 AM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Swap the upper; that's it. Same Bolt/BCG will work. 300blk brass is made from .223; same bolt face.

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#6217704 - 03/10/16 10:48 AM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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You're the man Mike that's all I needed to hear flag

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#6217749 - 03/10/16 11:26 AM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Yep. That's the beauty of the .300.

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#6217768 - 03/10/16 11:39 AM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TXMikeMcC]
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Originally Posted By: TXMikeMcC
Swap the upper; that's it. Same Bolt/BCG will work. 300blk brass is made from .223; same bolt face.


Same magazines too!
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#6217810 - 03/10/16 12:10 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Only difference between a 5.56 AR and .300 BLK is the barrel and the ammo. up
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#6217834 - 03/10/16 12:26 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Do any of yall own one? I am getting mixed reviews on forums online from everything to they are complete garbage to they are alright.. I have seen too many they are freaking outstandings lol. I am hoping I didnt make a bad decision but its not that serious It's and easy switch back. I know the ammo is limited and expensive and I hear there is quite a bit of shot drop at 200 yards something like 5 1/2 inches... Any other issues or maybe some praises, that would be nice haha

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#6217839 - 03/10/16 12:33 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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I have a couple. Economical and adequate about sums the cartridge up. Ammo prices are coming down and it is cheap to reload. Works fine on anything in Texas 200 yds and in, some push it further. I've killed a couple doe and a number of pigs with it.
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#6217843 - 03/10/16 12:36 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Chalet I didn't plan on Moose hunting with it so I should be good lol... I really just wanted it for hog hunting and wanted a little extra punch

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#6217847 - 03/10/16 12:40 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Originally Posted By: ETxsHunter
Do any of yall own one? I am getting mixed reviews on forums online from everything to they are complete garbage to they are alright.. I have seen too many they are freaking outstandings lol. I am hoping I didnt make a bad decision but its not that serious It's and easy switch back. I know the ammo is limited and expensive and I hear there is quite a bit of shot drop at 200 yards something like 5 1/2 inches... Any other issues or maybe some praises, that would be nice haha
Hunters are quick to blame caliber, bullet type, optics but 95% of the time its the hunter with bad shot placement or not being patient and waiting for a good shot opportunity. A 223 will drop a pig if you hit it in the right spot just as easily as a 308. I don't think you will have any issues within 200 yds with the 300 BLK.
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#6217848 - 03/10/16 12:43 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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I know every time I've made a bad shot it was my equipment's fault, I understand what you mean. That is reassuring though. You read too many sites for too long they can make any good thing turn into garbage.

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#6218104 - 03/10/16 03:55 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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Whether you made the best decision or not will depend on your intended use for your rifle. How much do you think you will be shooting? Any plans to shoot suppressed? Hunting with the rifle? Was cost a major concern (I.E you specifically went with the .300 BLK to avoid having to buy a new bolt and mags like other calibers require)? There are many different factors that come in to play when choosing the caliber of an upper.

If you bought the upper to hunt with as a "step up" from a 5.56 as many others have, then I would say that there are definitely better choices available. Most people fail to realize that the heavier .223 bullets (75 grains for example) will actually carry more energy at 100 yards than even the 110 grain VOR-TX .300 blackout round that everyone brags about. On the other hand, is the .300 BLK adequate for deer and pigs? Heck yeah!
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#6218199 - 03/10/16 04:44 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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I have one. My S&W M&P15 300 Blackout had a few factory upgrades, a 5R barrel, real tree APG finish....it's what I carry when I'm not deer hunting. (I have shot a couple of does with it) With Hornady 110 gr V-Max I have shot some really tight groups at the range. Great accuracy. With this same ammo everything I have shot was dead on it's feet. There's something to be said for the wound channel created. Recoil is nothing. This is the only AR I have ever had or wanted. All I needed was something that had all the mobility characteristics of an AR, in .30. I buy off the shelf ammo at Cabelas, Academy or Bass Pro without issue. A few years back when everything was a little scarce, Dallas Custom Reloads kept me going with great stuff. You'll be happy with it.

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#6218235 - 03/10/16 05:15 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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You have to be careful when reading reports of 300blk lethality. Often times people are trying to bring down deer/pigs with subsonic rounds, which aren't nearly as powerful as supersonic loadings. Supersonic 300blk will kill just about anything in Texas within 200 yards. That said, if you go trying to shoot deer with subs, you'd better know your drop chart inside and out, otherwise you'll probably end up wounding or missing an animal.

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#6218775 - 03/10/16 09:44 PM Re: 300 Blackout [Re: TxsHunter99]
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I have a new SBR .300 and recently shot six pigs with the gun. With the Barnes Tac Tx 110 grain I recovered 4 of 4 pigs. With Remington OTP I've shot 2 and didn't recover either. I'm confident the two I shot with the Remington ammo weren't the best shots, but I feel strongly they died. The two I didn't recover we're part of a group of four smaller pigs. Each time I shot one of the piglets they'd run off and come back, but one less piglet each time. The last time they came back there were only two, but unfortunately they got in with the cows so I couldn't get a clean shot.

My small sample size shows me the .300 is more than adequate for deer and pigs as long as you're using full power ammo.

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