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Wow- CL Lease offer #6195876 02/23/16 06:02 PM
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65 acres for 4 guns at only 6k$, What a deal!

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Here's one for 60 acres, $5k. Almost as bad...

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Wonder if they ever lease it for that price? If they do, mine will be on CL in a heartbeat.


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Supply and demand. Maybe these folks really don't want to lease unless the price makes it really worth their while. On that second one. Its in between San Antonio and Austin I could easily see someone pay that for it. I don't take fancy vacations but many do and they spend well over $5k. That price all things considered really is not that bad to be able to have a place to hunt and fish year round. Way cheaper than land ownership. Heck land in that area is $4k per acre. At current market prices that 60 acre place is worth over a a quarter of a million dollars. Someone would be either foolish or naive to think they could lease it for 10-20 dollars an acre.

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Not even a place to sleep on either of those, but hey they've got water and electric for you.


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Originally Posted By: blazin
Supply and demand. Maybe these folks really don't want to lease unless the price makes it really worth their while. On that second one. Its in between San Antonio and Austin I could easily see someone pay that for it. I don't take fancy vacations but many do and they spend well over $5k. That price all things considered really is not that bad to be able to have a place to hunt and fish year round. Way cheaper than land ownership. Heck land in that area is $4k per acre. At current market prices that 60 acre place is worth over a a quarter of a million dollars. Someone would be either foolish or naive to think they could lease it for 10-20 dollars an acre.

show me where you can find $4000 an acre land between San Antonio and Austin??? might be lucky to find anything in the $14000 range if not much higher. Land around Austin is stupid expensive, at least west of IH35!


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These leases (even on THF) scare me. I don't know if I'll ever be to the point of where I can spend 2 hours driving out to the lease every two weeks to fill feeders, conduct maintenance, have a buddy to go with with me, and then (after all that) risk being out of town for work during most of the hunting season.

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Originally Posted By: blazin
Supply and demand. Maybe these folks really don't want to lease unless the price makes it really worth their while. On that second one. Its in between San Antonio and Austin I could easily see someone pay that for it. I don't take fancy vacations but many do and they spend well over $5k. That price all things considered really is not that bad to be able to have a place to hunt and fish year round. Way cheaper than land ownership. Heck land in that area is $4k per acre. At current market prices that 60 acre place is worth over a a quarter of a million dollars. Someone would be either foolish or naive to think they could lease it for 10-20 dollars an acre.

show me where you can find $4000 an acre land between San Antonio and Austin??? might be lucky to find anything in the $14000 range if not much higher. Land around Austin is stupid expensive, at least west of IH35!


Caldwell county course its East of I35. My apologies its like 4300-5000 in that area.

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So what will be the short and long term of impact of the upward trend in lease prices when it results in placing more hunters on the property than the land can support - in order for the landowners to get their money?

I'm in the minority who refuse to defend landowners for getting all they can when they lease to more hunters than their deer population can support.

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Originally Posted By: MikeTX
These leases (even on THF) scare me. I don't know if I'll ever be to the point of where I can spend 2 hours driving out to the lease every two weeks to fill feeders, conduct maintenance, have a buddy to go with with me, and then (after all that) risk being out of town for work during most of the hunting season.


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60 and 65 acres, not happening....you can day lease and likely have better results. This is just greed or at least to me seems that way.

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And I'm sure somebody will pay it.

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So who's the bigger a-holes here? The greedy landowner, or the greedy deer hunters that pay it?

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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
So who's the bigger a-holes here? The greedy landowner, or the greedy deer hunters that pay it?


How are the hunters who pay it greedy? Desperate maybe.

How is the landowner that leases land to 4 hunters knowing it can't possibly support 4 hunters' annual harvest requirements not being at least a little greedy.

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That first landowner or whoever is running the ad has never leased it before. They mention they checked around and that is the price. I guess they forgot about checking the size of most leases before setting the price. Everyone I know plus me who leases pays about $9 to $12 an acre.

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Originally Posted By: ttechcolleyville
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So who's the bigger a-holes here? The greedy landowner, or the greedy deer hunters that pay it?


How are the hunters who pay it greedy? Desperate maybe.

How is the landowner that leases land to 4 hunters knowing it can't possibly support 4 hunters' annual harvest requirements not being at least a little greedy.


Maybe the hunters that want to have somewhere to hunt but want to do it at 1973 prices are the greedy ones. I don't see how a landowner can be considered greedy for leasing their place at what the market says it's worth! When hunters (mostly big city boys with deep pockets, and corporations) quit paying stupid prices for leases then the landowners will be forced to adjust their prices based on the market! It's what makes America great! I have never heard of a landowner forcing someone to lease their land! So to answer your question, it's not the landowners!!!

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Wonder if they ever lease it for that price? If they do, mine will be on CL in a heartbeat.


I guess they did lease it. Both are down now.


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Originally Posted By: ttechcolleyville
So what will be the short and long term of impact of the upward trend in lease prices when it results in placing more hunters on the property than the land can support - in order for the landowners to get their money?

I'm in the minority who refuse to defend landowners for getting all they can when they lease to more hunters than their deer population can support.


You want to explain how it's a landowner's fault "leasing to more hunters than the land will support"?

Why is it not just as much the hunters' faults for wanting to put more on to keep the per gun rate down?


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Yall are debating supply and demand - any seller of any product has the right to ask their price - any buyer has the right to say yes or no. Due diligence is the buyers responsibility - so if it fits your needs then lease it - if it does not then choose not to lease it. Pretty simple actually.

As a buyer I have seen way too many BS leases to put a load of hunters on a small property - so for me I would not touch either of those. But the seller has the right to ask whatever they want - isn't a free society a great place to get to live?


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Originally Posted By: tlk
Yall are debating supply and demand - any seller of any product has the right to ask their price - any buyer has the right to say yes or no. Due diligence is the buyers responsibility - so if it fits your needs then lease it - if it does not then choose not to lease it. Pretty simple actually.

As a buyer I have seen way too many BS leases to put a load of hunters on a small property - so for me I would not touch either of those. But the seller has the right to ask whatever they want - isn't a free society a great place to get to live?


Exactly. I tell hunters how many deer can be killed to maintain optimum trophy potential. I don't care how many people they put on there as long as they kill the prescribed numbers. Last year I had 9 guys hunting that 18,000 acres. That's how they chose to lease it. I won't let my ranches be over hunted, but let the hunters decide how many folks to put on it. Therefore THEY decide how much each hunter pays.

I don't do Freezer Filler leases. I have nothing at all against those, I just choose to manage for trophies. There's plenty of leases run in all different ways to meet everyone's needs. And that's great. But blaming each other for different management goals and values is silly.

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Originally Posted By: therancher
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Yall are debating supply and demand - any seller of any product has the right to ask their price - any buyer has the right to say yes or no. Due diligence is the buyers responsibility - so if it fits your needs then lease it - if it does not then choose not to lease it. Pretty simple actually.

As a buyer I have seen way too many BS leases to put a load of hunters on a small property - so for me I would not touch either of those. But the seller has the right to ask whatever they want - isn't a free society a great place to get to live?


Exactly. I tell hunters how many deer can be killed to maintain optimum trophy potential. I don't care how many people they put on there as long as they kill the prescribed numbers. Last year I had 9 guys hunting that 18,000 acres. That's how they chose to lease it. I won't let my ranches be over hunted, but let the hunters decide how many folks to put on it. Therefore THEY decide how much each hunter pays.

I don't do Freezer Filler leases. I have nothing at all against those, I just choose to manage for trophies. There's plenty of leases run in all different ways to meet everyone's needs. And that's great. But blaming each other for different management goals and values is silly.


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The Dallas duck hunters(pun) that are paying 15-20 bucks a acre have ruined hunting for the average hunter. I can't figure out why they don't save their money for 2 years (10) grand and go on a guided hunt for elk and mule deer. Must be the same people that are pulling for Killary. I can sit at home and sip good whiskey and don't need a camp fire to do so.And yes I have Family land that I can hunt and haven't killed a scrawny white tail in 10 years.People have lost it. rifle

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How have hunters paying what they need to pay to lease land ruined other people's hunts?

Saving $ for 2 years to hunt out of state 1 time doesn't get you access to year year round hunting a few hours from the house.

Not everyone has access to family or friends land to hunt for free. They got to pay the going rate, or not get a lease.

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point being..fringe hunters...those 80% of all hunters that have familys..mortage that find hunting a luxury are being squeezed out of the things that we deerly love..not complaing it is what it is..i just got back on a deer lease that i once got off because of a divorce..its an awesome place and feel privledged to get back on..im married and because my wife has a good paying job is the only reason i could afford to get back on...my point being and others on here are older hunters that remember the good ole days when you could go get permission to hunt for free on a neighbors farm..it is supply and demand..but there are men and women out there that are being squeezed out of making a family decision..i can see both sides of this..

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i want to make this clear..im not saying this is not worth the money..im using this post that i just coppied and pasted here as an example of why the mid to lower middleclass hunters..which make up alot of our sport are bein squeezed..im sure this is an awesome place..just using it as an example....................
South Texas Trophy lease located in Webb County. 9000 AC with 10 total spots. Currently 1-2 spots open. Property is low fenced and under MLD level 3. All trophies will be harvested at 6.5, lots of culls and does for guest to hunt. Lots of water on the property, some stocked with fish. Numerous deer shot on the ranch between 160 - 200 BC. Camp is set up with electricity and water. Cost is $15,000 per spot plus feed cost (corn, protein, and cotton seed) all feed and labor are supplied and filled by the ranch. PM me your name and number if interest and I will call you back soon as I'm free

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