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#6186512 - 02/16/16 06:20 PM How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion.
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If you do when do you stop? Whats your preference for clicker use?
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#6186523 - 02/16/16 06:29 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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#6186533 - 02/16/16 06:34 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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Mine either Bill.

With that said the breeder of the my soon to be drathaar puppy and i were talking yesterday. He really emphasized me using a clicker. I have only had labs and trained my own to a level of success im very pleased with and have never used the clicker. Im just wondering if it has magic properties.
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#6186544 - 02/16/16 06:42 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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What's a clicker

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#6186560 - 02/16/16 06:53 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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Its a training aide to reinforce positive behavior. How to effectively use it, im not sure.
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#6186596 - 02/16/16 07:15 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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In my opinion you should stay with what you are comfortable with.

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#6186643 - 02/16/16 07:33 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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Just one more thing to carry around. Don't see the point.

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#6186819 - 02/16/16 09:04 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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All of yall have used operant conditioning which is all a clicker is.

I would ask your breeder to help explain what it is, how to use it, etc.


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#6187077 - 02/17/16 06:56 AM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: MS1454]
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Originally Posted By: MS1454
All of yall have used operant conditioning which is all a clicker is.

I would ask your breeder to help explain what it is, how to use it, etc.


True but it is the LEAST effective method.
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#6187280 - 02/17/16 09:36 AM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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It's not that you abandon a lead for field work later on or the use of a lot of praise all the time. I think early on operant conditioning builds a cooperative, pressure-less learning process that you can start very early. I like it for place training to a sleeping area or crate in the house most specifically, but other obedience commands are easily taught to, such as the proper heel position and walking at heel/not pulling while on a lead. It's a good way to bond with them and fun to watch them pick it up and process what you are asking them to do. If you teach a dog a few commands using a clicker, I believe it improves a dog's ability to process and learn later on in training. Other trainers'methods, like Koehler, Bailey, Tarrant, Wehle, etc all work too, but some commands just fit well with the clicker in my opinion.

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#6187313 - 02/17/16 09:52 AM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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My e-collar transmitter button has a little clicking sound when I press it. That is as close as I get to clicking. Seems to work pretty well though. The dogs are doing good with it. Could be that the button has a little dust/dirt in it though.

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#6187515 - 02/17/16 12:34 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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Some of the trainers that laughed at it in the past, are now using it as PART of their training program. As long as its not going to hurt the dog, I like to keep an open mind, and try something before I judge it.
I'd asked the breeder for more information on it, and how he incorporates it in his training program. Also why he believes its helped training his dogs, over the other methods alone.

I wouldn't throw my check cord, and ecollar away, but I'd still like to know more about it.
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#6187722 - 02/17/16 03:08 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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My comment earlier should have read "the clicker is the LEAST effective method of operant conditioning". The fact of the matter is that the basis behind it is good but it is very limited and has very little meaning to the dog. The clicker is a marker, plain and simple. It is the same as saying "Good" or whatever else you want to say. Timing is what is most important in marking wanted behaviors. Most people that have no experience are not able to do this properly and end up marking unwanted behaviors instead. There is no emotion, no change in tone or volume, and no physical contact or tangible reward. Most people that use a clicker don't even understand it or they would realize that them being a cheerleader for the dog is what is eliciting the response and not the clicker. Don't believe it, go out and train a dog without saying a word, giving any body language, and without touching the dog. Click away and the result will not be the same. Next throw the clicker in the trash and do everything you were doing with the clicker and you will see the same result. It's got nothing to do with the clicker people!!!!! Clickers click and trainers train.
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#6188041 - 02/17/16 07:13 PM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: maximumintensityretriever]
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Originally Posted By: maximumintensityretriever
My comment earlier should have read "the clicker is the LEAST effective method of operant conditioning". The fact of the matter is that the basis behind it is good but it is very limited and has very little meaning to the dog. The clicker is a marker, plain and simple. It is the same as saying "Good" or whatever else you want to say. Timing is what is most important in marking wanted behaviors. Most people that have no experience are not able to do this properly and end up marking unwanted behaviors instead. There is no emotion, no change in tone or volume, and no physical contact or tangible reward. Most people that use a clicker don't even understand it or they would realize that them being a cheerleader for the dog is what is eliciting the response and not the clicker. Don't believe it, go out and train a dog without saying a word, giving any body language, and without touching the dog. Click away and the result will not be the same. Next throw the clicker in the trash and do everything you were doing with the clicker and you will see the same result. It's got nothing to do with the clicker
people!!!!! Clickers click and trainers train.


This,,, I only use a clicker on my puppies for some basic stuff.

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#6189003 - 02/18/16 11:05 AM Re: How many of yall use clickers when training your hunting companion. [Re: jorge]
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Yep. Just a marker. We used it when teaching puppy obedience, but haven't used it since our pup was about 5 months old.

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