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#6185542 - 02/16/16 07:09 AM Sleeping Bag Question
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I am going on another Colorado elk hunt this fall. Last time my sleeping bag was not quite insulated enough. What rating would be best for the side of the mountain? If it gets down to 20 let's say, do I need a 20 degree rated bag or something better? I was thinking a 0 degree rated bag. I don't want to burn up but I most definitely don't want to be cold.

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#6185593 - 02/16/16 07:43 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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You won't burn up with a zero rated bag. In my experience, when things like boots and sleeping bags say rated down to whatever, you can just about take it to the bank that they really meant about 40 degrees warmer.

If it were me and I didn't have to hump it up and down the mountain everyday, I'd buy the warmest bag I could get. Bad weather has a habit of busting you when you're least expecting it.

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#6185659 - 02/16/16 08:25 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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#6185768 - 02/16/16 09:38 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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You can always get cooler but it's tough to get warmer in cold temps. I have a 5 degree Western Mountaineering Sequoia and it works great.

Are you backpacking or hunting out of a base camp?

If weight is an issue then go as light as you can afford to go. The one you are thinking about is fine, but pretty heavy for backpacking - which is why it is so economical. If you double (or more) that price you can get into a down or high quality synthetic down bag with about half the weight. Western Mountaineering, Feathered Friends, Marmot, and Big Agnes come to mind as brands to look at - there are several others.

If you are base-camp hunting where you can drive to camp I prefer a more roomy canvas sleeping bag with a quilt lining. These can be either down or synthetic filled since weight is not an issue. These greatly increase comfort and can be had pretty economically since weight is not an issue.

Good luck on your trip!


Edited by Nogalus Prairie (02/16/16 09:38 AM)
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#6185777 - 02/16/16 09:43 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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A 20 degree bag with a good pad should keep you quite toasty, all the way down to 0 degrees. While the bag is important, the type of pad you are using is just as important
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#6185809 - 02/16/16 10:01 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Pad is key yes.

And some companies are known to be spot on with their comfort ratings - while some are not. It's been too long since I researched it but an internet search should provide that info.
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#6185856 - 02/16/16 10:36 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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The rating is generally meant to be the temperature you can survive in. It has nothing to do with being comfortable, most of the time. No way would I want to be in 20 degree weather with nothing but a bag rated for 20 degrees. Go lower than the temps you expect. Like Nog said, it's easy to open it up and cool off. Getting warmer when your bag isn't cutting it? Good luck.
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#6185929 - 02/16/16 11:29 AM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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About the ratings they are standardized

"EN13537 requires a thermal manikin test which produces four temperature results — upper limit, comfort, lower limit and extreme. These temperatures were worked for normal consumers."

"idfl-certified" is mainly used for down bags.

Key to sleeping bags is thermal loss out the bottom. In cold weather an insulated pad makes a huge difference.

I'm a fan of mountain hard wear gear, both tents and bags



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#6186099 - 02/16/16 01:26 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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My usual rule of thumb is the bag is comfortable to withing ~15 degrees above it's rating. I have a 20-degree ultralight down bag (1.8 lb) that I backpack with and use down to about freezing (with a good air ground pad). It packs up to slightly larger than the size of a soft ball. If it's colder than that, I have a -20 degree down bag that get's the call. The -20 bag goes to elk camp.

Down is a thermo-regulating insulator. So, it will be comfortable across a broader range of temperatures than many synthetic fabrics. Like everything else, you get what you pay for. But a good down bag, if maintained properly, will last a life time.


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#6186684 - 02/16/16 07:54 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown


I'm a fan of mountain hard wear gear, both tents and bags




Same here. I have one of these and have slept comfortable in it on a good thermarest under the stars at -7F.

http://www.backcountry.com/mountain-hard...0NhdDcxMTAwMDE1
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#6186751 - 02/16/16 08:33 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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backcountry.com has some great deals going on right now on bags - and everything else.
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#6186809 - 02/16/16 08:57 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
backcountry.com has some great deals going on right now on bags - and everything else.


model close out time. Some steals going on on boots also

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#6186816 - 02/16/16 09:00 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Think I've been look at new gear lately lol

It's funny you bring them up.... Lol


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#6186834 - 02/16/16 09:09 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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I don't even have anything in mind and I still want to buy something. grin
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#6186842 - 02/16/16 09:17 PM Re: Sleeping Bag Question [Re: Kung Fu Widgeon]
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Sleeping bags are rated to the temp they will keep you alive at. Not keep you comfortable. Add about 20 degrees to the rating and that is what it will keep you comfortable at. I temps will be in the 20s get you a 0 rated bag. Or get you bag system that can be used with the liner for multiple temp uses making it more than a one season bag.
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