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#6183454 - 02/14/16 06:57 PM Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country
JOBK Offline
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Registered: 11/02/12
Posts: 40
I have booked for an elk cow day hunt in last week , the ranch area is about 240 acre at present time I am not telling the name of the ranch ( still negotiating) , it classified in THF site , the price was 1150 for a cow.
When I contacted ranch owner he told 50 dollar extra he need for non hunter fee, I agreed and I paid 600 dollar deposit for booking.
I hunted there yesterday there were other two groups one father and two sons all are looking to hunt , another father and son, son was doing archery hunt , he is doing first time hunt and he was looking for a ram below 20 feet range . There is only one guide for all these groups.
Guide drop two groups in a blind at 6:00 am , we saw some hogs and ram walking close to the blind not even one is looking in to the feeder . The guide stay with the three member team, at 8:45 the guide came to my blind and requested to leave he want to clean the ram the other group shot.
We went to cleaning station; wait for his cleaning then guide told me he wants to pick up the other party for Archery hunt, he was looking for full curl Corsican ram but it was not available , then they drop one from truck for him . We wait for the guide up to 12;30 pm , I contacted owner for additional help to do hunting, he replied you are assigned for only hunt on blind. They return back at around 1:30 pm and guide went to town to buy some gasoline for the atv. Afternoon guide took we three (me and my friend and the boy is doing archery) for hunting with atv, we looked around each corner, we just saw the Corsican ram and they boy tried to chase the ram but no luck.

The guide dropped we all three groups in different blind, we all stayed up to 6:15 pm, but no luck.
The guide told me he is being working from Jan but he saw the cow elk only one time, not even reported by any past hunters about this cow. But some of them are reported they saw a red stag. When the guide saw the cow, which was with this red stag.
I have no hope that I can hunt this animal as per their right hunting schedule and setup. I requested my refund. Now the owner is telling he will not pay back any refund, yes it is in their website will not refund any deposit but website offers guaranteed shooting opportunities. “All exotic deer hunts have a “guaranteed shot opportunity”- meaning that your guide will ensure you get a shot at the exotic deer you are hunting.
He told me I can come and do the hunt again, I requested can you give me any guarantee for a shot opportunity, he is telling he is not tied this on a tree. He is not even guaranteed even for next two hunts. How I can spend this many days without any hope?
I just came to know that this ranch is just dropping animals and hunting within three weeks, this cow they dropped but they couldn’t find a hunter and this cow elk cow became very wild, in these days the guide couldn’t see the other cow, he told it may have be died. He doesn’t want to put a game camera and look for its moving.


Please help me what is the best way to manage this kind of situation. Very greedy ranch owner he putting his trouble on my head, he worried if the cows are there it will eat all the feeds he is providing for other animals. There is no grass or small plants on this ranch. Just covered with cedar tree,

welcome for any positive or negative feedback



Edited by JOBK (02/14/16 07:28 PM)

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#6183620 - 02/14/16 08:32 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
kdkane1971 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/14
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Loc: Mesopotamia
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#6183681 - 02/14/16 08:59 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
BBD84 Offline
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Registered: 11/15/11
Posts: 6817
Loc: Houston & Buffalo
I have several red hinds near college station and promiss you we have over 30 hinds on 600 acres. Saw that many in one group 2 weeks ago. We are 100% kills on this ranch but it is a hunt. If I can help in any way let me know. College station Tx and $950 for one red hind single day hunt. Average weight has been over 250 lbs.
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#6183699 - 02/14/16 09:18 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
Mike Savoy Offline
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If it is the place I am thinking , it isn't 200 ac and I am betting the cow has been long gone.
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#6183702 - 02/14/16 09:19 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
don k Offline
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 9305
Loc: Bandera, Tx
Sorry to hear that happen to you. Good luck with getting it resolved.
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#6183751 - 02/14/16 10:14 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
passthru Offline
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Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 10875
Loc: Saginaw, Tx
You could burn his barn down, disembowel his dog and hang it from his door frame, shoot his prize bull in the testes with a .22LR or just beat him to a bloody pulp. However none of those things will get your money back and may land you in prison. So I suggest you get an attorney to write him a nasty letter threatening legal action and see if that sways him.
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#6183811 - 02/15/16 12:05 AM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
texastrophyhunter63 Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 01/13/14
Posts: 65
Loc: Texas
You can call Joe Sheldon at his website number. His website is a place to hunt ranch.com .joe is a good Christian man and he will guilde you personally. His elk cows are 800.00 dollars. You can look at his prices. They are hard to beat. Tell him Luciano sent you.
Good Luck!

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#6184147 - 02/15/16 10:11 AM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
EddieWalker Offline
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Registered: 08/06/14
Posts: 1177
Loc: Tyler, TX
Why don't you post the name of the ranch or the outfitter? If what you say is true, then letting others know about a bad operation is the only thing that will stop it from happening. Most people google an outfitter to see if there are any negative reviews of his operation.

I would right off what you spent on going there and spend your time focusing on finding a good place to hunt.

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#6184222 - 02/15/16 10:58 AM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
JOBK Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 11/02/12
Posts: 40
Hi Eddie, give me a little bit time . I will provide all details . I am looking to sue against him so I am worried it will effect on my case or not, need legal advise. He should not do this with any another hunter, I will go with as much as I can. I am enrolled with free legal plan that attorney fee is free for me . I wish he will come and do some comment here.
When he refused to pay back 600 dollar , I requested back 425 on Saturday (deduct hunt fee 125 dollar + 50 non hunter fee even though I no need to do that). He doesn't want to pay even that and didn't want to communicate in the evening and Sunday, I respected his request and looking to talk today evening. .

Thank you all for all support, this place is good for someone is looking 20 to 60 lb hogs, I saw more than 30 hogs at a time .. charging 125 dollar..







Edited by JOBK (02/15/16 06:46 PM)

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#6184903 - 02/15/16 06:36 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
JOBK Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 11/02/12
Posts: 40
At last he offered hunt again on next Saturday at 9:30 am , this time he guaranteed, he may drop some cow elk or existing see what will happen. Let them do some home work. I will inform the result how it will work it out. Any way I want to get rid of this headache. I will not hunt again there. Always I wish to go with good relation with everybody





Edited by JOBK (02/15/16 06:44 PM)

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#6185195 - 02/15/16 08:33 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
Classic Rocks Offline
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 1850
I'd sure as hell shoot $600 worth of something tasty before I left.

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#6188350 - 02/17/16 11:35 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: Classic Rocks]
Ronnie Oneal Offline
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Registered: 08/18/11
Posts: 1384
Loc: Grayson Co
Originally Posted By: Classic Rocks
I'd sure as hell shoot $600 worth of something tasty before I left.


This^^^^

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#6188471 - 02/18/16 07:02 AM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: Ronnie Oneal]
kdkane1971 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/14
Posts: 1808
Loc: Mesopotamia
Originally Posted By: Ronnie Oneal
Originally Posted By: Classic Rocks
I'd sure as hell shoot $600 worth of something tasty before I left.


This^^^^


I've hunted the ranch the OP references in his opening statement back in 2014, and I can attest to some of the same experiences. It took a good 9 hours to find the animal we were looking for, and if we hadn't found it, we would have been SOL. We didn't see $600 worth of animals to take in lieu of our target animal.

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#6189838 - 02/18/16 06:28 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
breadman Offline
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Registered: 08/19/14
Posts: 987
Loc: huntsville texas
well is anyone gonna tell us the NAME of this place so we can not have the same experience ??
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#6189901 - 02/18/16 07:07 PM Re: Beware this exotic hunting ranch in Hill country [Re: JOBK]
Classic Rocks Offline
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 1850
Well, it starts with a D and ends with a B and it's a hunting ranch.

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