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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: East]
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02/12/16 03:05 PM
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syncerus
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Even though suppressors are essentially safety devices, it's important to recognize that we're fighting 50 years of bad Hollywood movies that portray them as evil. I think the HPA is an uphill fight, but we'll never change the public dialog and perception unless we try. Suppressors are first and foremost safety devices and secondly very useful social tools that enable us to reduce public noise disturbance in rural and semi-rural areas.
Just like car mufflers, which are required for largely the same reasons.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/12/16 03:13 PM
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Agreed..... They were not put in the NFA because they were being used in crime. From what I understand the thinking behind putting them in the NFA was to keep people from being able to use them to poach game on federal lands & kill farmers livestock for food during the great depression. The "Tax stamp" was simply a means to ban NFA items since the government wouldn't issue the stamps (same as Marijuana tax stamps) and remember the $200 tax stamp would be the equivalent of over $3,500 in todays money back then; so the stamps were nothing but a "prohibitive cost ban" from the beginning.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: syncerus]
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02/12/16 03:43 PM
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Even though suppressors are essentially safety devices, it's important to recognize that we're fighting 50 years of bad Hollywood movies that portray them as evil. I think the HPA is an uphill fight, but we'll never change the public dialog and perception unless we try. Suppressors are first and foremost safety devices and secondly very useful social tools that enable us to reduce public noise disturbance in rural and semi-rural areas.
Just like car mufflers, which are required for largely the same reasons. This almost verbatim how I explain the use of suppressors to the uninformed.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: East]
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02/12/16 09:30 PM
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I'd love one but don't want to go through all the government BS and the long wait. If I could pay my $200 + cost of suppressor at the same time, I would have several.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/12/16 10:31 PM
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I have absolutely no interest in them, but I have much interest in rolling back all the oppression emanating from Washington DC.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/13/16 12:02 AM
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I have absolutely no interest in them, but I have much interest in rolling back all the oppression emanating from Washington DC. I felt the same way, RR, until I owned one. The .22 suppressors are amazing, and the suppressor-over-brake combo is just revolutionary for really hard kickers like my lightweight .338 LM.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: syncerus]
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02/13/16 12:16 AM
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I have absolutely no interest in them, but I have much interest in rolling back all the oppression emanating from Washington DC. I felt the same way, RR, until I owned one. The .22 suppressors are amazing, and the suppressor-over-brake combo is just revolutionary for really hard kickers like my lightweight .338 LM. Is there a significant amount of recoil reduction over just the brake?
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: East]
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02/13/16 12:20 AM
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Well, the additional weight of the suppressor out at the end of the barrel seems to help disproportionally, but the real win is that you get all of the benefits of the brake (recoil reduction), but none of the muzzle blast. It's really greatness.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: syncerus]
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02/22/16 03:25 PM
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Email I received back Thank you for contacting me regarding the Hearing Protection Act of 2015 (H.R. 3799). I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter. As you may know, H.R. 3799 was introduced in the House of Representatives on October 22, 2015. This legislation would remove sound suppressors from regulation under the National Firearms Act of 1934 (P.L. 73-474) and ensure that purchasing a firearm suppressor is treated the same as purchasing a long gun. You may be certain that I will keep your views in mind should a Senate companion to H.R. 3799 or other relevant legislation be considered during the 114th Congress. As a strong proponent of the Second Amendment, I believe it is essential to safeguard the law-abiding citizen's constitutional right to own and use firearms for lawful purposes. Restricting this right runs counter to the intent of our Founding Fathers, who expressly guaranteed that citizens would retain the right to keep and bear arms. It is encouraging that the Supreme Court has upheld the will of our Founders and re-affirmed the ideals upon which our country was established. The Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller provides a greater guarantee that Americans' constitutional rights remain secure from federal government intrusion. I was proud to sign an amicus brief to the Supreme Court supporting the fundamental right of American citizens to keep and bear arms. This landmark ruling continues to have implications far beyond the District of Columbia. In the 2010 McDonald v. City of Chicago decision, the Supreme Court struck down the arbitrary gun ban in Chicago—thereby affirming that the Second Amendment protects Americans’ fundamental rights against state and local encroachment. As a former Texas Supreme Court Justice and Attorney General, I have firsthand knowledge of crime-fighting policies that work, and I believe that citizens' Second Amendment rights should not be restricted because of the actions of criminals. Rather, we must focus our attention on the source of violent crime: criminals who use firearms to harm innocent Americans. I believe that strictly enforcing the law—and imposing tougher sentences on career criminals and violent offenders who use firearms—will reduce violence more effectively than gun or equipment bans, which primarily serve to take firearms away from law-abiding citizens. Furthermore, lawmakers should work to reduce violence by enacting policies that increase treatment options for those who are dangerously mentally ill—a common factor in many acts of mass violence that have occurred in communities across the nation. I appreciate the opportunity to represent Texans in the United States Senate, and you may be certain that I will continue working with my colleagues to protect our Second Amendment rights. Thank you for taking the time to contact me. Sincerely, JOHN CORNYN United States Senator
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: East]
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02/22/16 04:20 PM
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Looks like a "please vote for me again" set of paragraphs.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/22/16 04:35 PM
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/22/16 04:40 PM
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Yep lol looked more like something about mass shootings and 2nd amendment rights than anything to do with suppressors.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
[Re: East]
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02/23/16 01:51 AM
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I got something similar when I emailed Kevin Brady asking him to fight Obama on gun control after the Oregon shooting and his State of the Union. Brady pretty much recapped the events and said we shouldn't make hasty decisions and that was it.
I understand they are very busy but at least address the question/statement!
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/23/16 02:30 AM
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Masters at giving a response without answering the question.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/29/16 03:18 AM
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What is the verdict on this? Is this thing dead or is it going to go before congress?
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/29/16 02:26 PM
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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr3799Govtrack is a good way to track that stuff. And the reason Coryn sent the email he did is because he is a Senator, not a member of the house of Representatives. He has nothing to do with bills in the house, so he really couldnt do anything unless a companion bill was in the Senate or it got approved by house and sent to senate.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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02/29/16 11:51 PM
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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03/01/16 12:00 AM
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Govtrack gives the senate bill a 1% chance and the house resolution a 0%. Hope its wrong.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act
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03/01/16 01:17 AM
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Masters at giving a response without answering the question. Exactly my thought after reading it. I kept hoping I'd get to the "I'm going to support it" line.
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