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#6176781 - 02/09/16 07:56 PM Is this real life?
crankn101 Offline
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On facebok people are saying if a person wanted to Cerakote a friends gun they need to have an FFL. Is this correct?

I know our govt is overreaching but this would just be insane.

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#6176783 - 02/09/16 07:57 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
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Nope, absolutely untrue. People are idiots.
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#6176788 - 02/09/16 08:00 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
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I don't claim to know all the ins and outs of FFL and ATF laws. I do know that to do certain types of work on guns you do in fact have to have a certain kind of FFL though. Think its some sort of FFL manufacturing license or something like that. Even something as simple as putting a trigger in a gun for someone is a grey area.

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#6176795 - 02/09/16 08:04 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
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If the weapon is a SBR or has a silencer on it I would thing the person would have to be a FFL or be on the persons trust to have possession of the rifle. For anything else as long as the person isn't a felon I see no reason to require the person to be an FFL.
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#6176835 - 02/09/16 08:22 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
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Here is the ruling from the ATF

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/2009-1...rearms/download


If they charge for the finishing service, they need to be licensed as a dealer.

If a person buys a firearm with intent to resell and refinishes, they have to be licensed as a manufacturer

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/2010-1...ertain/download





Edited by Colt W. Knight (02/09/16 08:23 PM)

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#6176842 - 02/09/16 08:26 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: Colt W. Knight]
Tff caribou Offline
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Originally Posted By: Colt W. Knight
Here is the ruling from the ATF

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/2009-1...rearms/download


If they charge for the finishing service, they need to be licensed as a dealer.

If a person buys a firearm with intent to resell and refinishes, they have to be licensed as a manufacturer

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/2010-1...ertain/download





I was just about to post the same. You must be "in the business" of painting/refinishing guns to need a license. The ATF has said on several occasions doing something occasionally is not considered "in the business". So even if you were to charge for it, but didn't so it regularly, you are good to go.

The same goes for buying a gun to refinish and resell.
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#6176886 - 02/09/16 08:44 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
crankn101 Offline
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A little better but still crazy the control our govt has.
Thanks guys

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#6176895 - 02/09/16 08:49 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
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My understanding was to take possession of someone else's firearm, to do anything to it, needed an FFL.
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#6176902 - 02/09/16 08:51 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: crankn101]
Buzzsaw Offline
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chad have an ffl?
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#6176906 - 02/09/16 08:54 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
My understanding was to take possession of someone else's firearm, to do anything to it, needed an FFL.


That's my understanding, and yes buzz Chad has an FFL.
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#6176916 - 02/09/16 08:59 PM Re: Is this real life? [Re: FiremanJG]
crankn101 Offline
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
My understanding was to take possession of someone else's firearm, to do anything to it, needed an FFL.


This is what my FFL guy was saying when and if the executive order goes into effect.

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