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#6176431 - 02/09/16 04:19 PM Need advice...Dogbox Problem
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Registered: 03/17/11
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I have a really nice 6yr old English Setter that has developed a problem that I can't get a handle on. Problem is in the dog box. I can put him in the box and go to the lease and take him in and out of the box 25 times with no problems whatsoever. Only when I get back home and start unloading him at my house, he becomes mad and aggressive to the point that he recently drew blood when he bit me. This is normally the nicest, friendliest dog you have ever seen 99.9% of the time. He is always in your pocket wanting and getting attention. He is a very lovable and personable dog. Just when he gets home, he becomes angered and I mean real mad. I recently started putting a leash on him and running it through the top of the dog box door so I could grab it and pull him out of the box so I would not have to handle him down (only back at home). He has never had this problem before this year. I am stumped and need advice how to handle this situation. If you have a reasonable solution, let me hear it.

Thanks,

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#6176440 - 02/09/16 04:25 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
BradyBuck Offline
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Is he only aggressive while getting out of the box? What about after he's out and away from the box?

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#6176445 - 02/09/16 04:30 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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I use the command load for the dog box. I use the command kennel for the back yard or kennel. What does he do if you simply open the dog box and tell him to kennel? You will have to try new things because this is new one for most dog owners on this forum.
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#6176465 - 02/09/16 04:43 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: BradyBuck]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
Is he only aggressive while getting out of the box? What about after he's out and away from the box?


Yes, only getting out of the box. He tries to defend his turf inside the box only at home. I have to take the box out of the truck with him in it with the help of my wife and line it up with the backyard gate and open the door. Once he gets out and does his business, he is usually fine within 5-10 minutes. He can't be touched while in the box when he gets back home. BTW, he and my other dogs have the nicest kennel and most comfortable set-up that you can buy along with a huge exercise area. It not like he is coming back to shoddy conditions.


Edited by NorthTXbirdhunter (02/09/16 04:44 PM)

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#6176476 - 02/09/16 04:50 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: bill oxner]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I use the command load for the dog box. I use the command kennel for the back yard or kennel. What does he do if you simply open the dog box and tell him to kennel? You will have to try new things because this is new one for most dog owners on this forum.


Bill,
I have used the same commands with no problems. When I open the door, he becomes a literal mad dog, in the back of the box. He acts like he does not want to come out and defends his turf. It has become a real challenge for me. He is an outstanding birddog. This is the only hole in the dog's persona suddenly and I can't seem to get a grip on it.

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#6176496 - 02/09/16 05:13 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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Do you only take him to the lease solo, or do your other dogs go as well? Maybe he just doesn't want his fun related to the lease to end, or maybe he doesn't want to go back to sharing your attention. It may do some good to load them up & go around the block then back to the house. If you use a training collar maybe you can reinforce your commands.

I had one of my pups scared & not wanting to load for a while after she fell while trying to load up. After some practicing & reassurance she was back to normal in no time.. Also, I am not sure if yours is jumping out of the box or you're helping him, but he may be getting sore from riding in the box or need some time to get his bearings again.
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#6176503 - 02/09/16 05:20 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: Sherpa Dog]
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I hate coming home from the hunting lease too.
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#6176521 - 02/09/16 05:30 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
Birdhunter61 Offline
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Does it only happen after a long drive? What if you stop to air him along the way? Or is it only associated with getting home?

Robby

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#6176532 - 02/09/16 05:37 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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Is he fixed?


Edited by MS1454 (02/09/16 05:39 PM)
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#6176535 - 02/09/16 05:43 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: MS1454]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Nope

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#6176538 - 02/09/16 05:47 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
BradyBuck Offline
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I wonder if it could be he's in some sort of pain or has a medical issue that's exacerbated by being crated for a period after exercise?

Then the process of getting out causes the pain and why he doesn't want to get out.

Just a thought...

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#6176600 - 02/09/16 06:29 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: Birdhunter61]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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Originally Posted By: Birdhunter61
Does it only happen after a long drive? What if you stop to air him along the way? Or is it only associated with getting home?

Robby


Robby,
Just last weekend I hunted with a friend at his lease. We went in his truck hauling my dog crate for my dogs. We met at his house and returned there Sunday afternoon. After a 4+ hour ride he unloaded perfectly at my friend's house. Put the dog box back in my truck, loaded the dogs back up and drove 20 minutes home. He was mad as hell when we got to my house. It only happens at my house. I have tried two different boxes to no avail. He does not appear to be in pain and his performance in the field certainly does not indicate it. He is a HeMan in the field.....

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#6176659 - 02/09/16 06:59 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
bill oxner Offline
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Open the box and just walk away sometime when you have the time. You're not going to solve this with one trick.
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#6176700 - 02/09/16 07:20 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: bill oxner]
NorthTXbirdhunter Offline
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That is where I am now. He will not come out.

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#6176806 - 02/09/16 08:09 PM Re: Need advice...Dogbox Problem [Re: NorthTXbirdhunter]
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Registered: 06/04/11
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Loc: NB, TX
park your truck somewhere else?
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