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#6171790 - 02/06/16 08:50 AM Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question
DannyB Offline
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With this scope on 1 power can you see the cross hairs and target with both eyes open like a red dot scope. I always, in my mind, thought of a red dot as zero power. On 1 power with this Leupold is there any magnification at all?

The few red dot scopes that I have had could be used with both eyes open. My vision would simply blur out the tube. It was I guess about like a "heads up display".


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#6171809 - 02/06/16 09:15 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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I don't think it's a true 1x, more like 1.25x.
I really doubt your going to be walking among the hogs close enough
to use co-witness. I could be wrong though. Should work great "close
one eye" and choot-em on the move scope rifle
It may even co-witness for you, depends on how your vision works. I
feel like I can co-witness a little higher than 1x, but that's just
walking with the weapon, I don't really practice cqb.

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#6171859 - 02/06/16 09:49 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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I have the patrol and yes you can shoot it with both eyes open on the lowest magnification.

Btw, think of multiplication. X0 is zero. X1 is itself.

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#6171861 - 02/06/16 09:50 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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Also mine is 1.25. Not sure on the hog.

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#6171984 - 02/06/16 11:26 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
DannyB Offline
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Leupold has two different ones, a VX 1-4, and a VX-R 1.25-4. If I got one it would be the basic one.

I'm just considering replacing one of my red dots with this. It is certainly a higher quality optic than what I have. And I figure I can sight it in tighter as well.

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#6172068 - 02/06/16 12:30 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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If you look at the specifications the basic 1x4 VX-Hog is really 1.4x4.
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#6172488 - 02/06/16 09:32 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
DannyB Offline
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The more I look at that reticle the less I like it. There is just too much going on in there for my liking.

What I'm trying to accomplish is a highly reliable, very low power scope, without a battery and electronics that could fail, that isn't a bazillion dollars, with the quality and a warranty like Leupold. Any ideas?

So far a VX-III 1.5-5 x 20 may be about all I want to spend. I just don't want to drop a ton of money on a scope, but also think a quality tube can be bought for about what I want to spend.

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#6172506 - 02/06/16 09:44 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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You'll be much happier with a 1-4x. Have you looked into the MTAC?
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#6172520 - 02/06/16 09:59 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: Tactical Cowboy]
DannyB Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
You'll be much happier with a 1-4x. Have you looked into the MTAC?


No, but have looked at the Leupold with the illuminated reticle. I like the idea of cross hairs even if the light goes out.

I do like Burris equipment as well. I have a Fullfield II that I think I bought for semi-cheap many years back that is still on the money.

Thanks for the suggestion!

EDIT: There sure seems to be a lot of Vortex fans. I just looked at a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 with illuminated reticle. Looks like can only get down to 1 power in the Burris or Vortex. I'm a huge Leupold fan, but need to open my eyes to change. smile

Illuminated Leupold or Burris or Vortex?

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#6172593 - 02/07/16 12:23 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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I'm not a Vortex fan.

Do you want the scope to make things look smaller?? 1x is zero magnification... The same as iron sights or a red dot.
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#6172602 - 02/07/16 01:28 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: Tactical Cowboy]
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Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
You'll be much happier with a 1-4x. Have you looked into the MTAC?


+1 on mtac i have it and am pretty fast with it. Also i can ring steel a ways out there with the reticle it has. Id say im as fast as with my eotech or aimpoint. The viper pst 1-4 is awesome as well. I have both and cant decide which one i prefer more. I had a bushnell ffp 1-4 with cat tail and other than weight to my eyes it was comparable glass at a good bargain i got mine for 179.00 on salr at palmetto. I cant seem to get a group under .9" with any 1-4 power but thats not why i bought them. All have reticle thatll show non illuminated well. As far as most prevision the viper pst reticle takes it hands down


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#6176880 - 02/09/16 08:42 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
Colt W. Knight Offline
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The firedot illuminated reticle on Leupolds is killer for night time and low light shooting. I have a Mark AR with the firedot and love it for night time hunting.

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#6178385 - 02/10/16 08:31 PM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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I have one and really like it

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#6181558 - 02/13/16 04:20 AM Re: Leupold VX Hog 1 - 4 x 20 Question [Re: DannyB]
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I think most scopes advertised as 1x have a little magnification. It is my understanding(I could be wrong) that it is quite a bit more expensive to make a variable power scope with true 1x.
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