Okay so when your guide is the ranch owner. Do ya'll still tip the owner of the ranch/outfitter as much as you would a contracted guide?

Yes

Yep. Tip for the service received, not his position in the hierarchy.

Exactly.
I have guided at a ranch were the owner seems to be neglected in the "guide" position. I know that he doesn't care, and he is more than happy to get the customer a good animal. I always thought it would be cool if someone slipped him a few extra bills.

I think you should always tip especially if you think you will ever be going back! They will remember if you tip well and take care of you one of the guides I go with actually rearranged the schedule so he could take me and a few others and placed who he was originally guiding with another guide. They will also try harder to have a successful hunt

Absolutely

Ask them do you want a 1099 for services?

Along those lines, if you are invited to go on a hunt and it is just run by a friends vendor how do you handle that? The vendor invites him to come hunt on the property he leases (corporate style) he feeds you, takes and picks you up from blinds, gives you the green light to take as many does as you want and hopes you get a trophy buck. It is all bowhunting and large with not many invites but should the invited guest tip or is it just simply business relations?

If the guide treats me right and works hard, he is getting a tip from me, regardless of the fact it's a corporate invite. Who is paying for the hunt is not relevant to me when it comes to tipping.

If somebody invites me out to their lease to hunt, I'm not tipping them. I'll thank them profusely, but I don't see any reason to tip in that situation.

I've just always heard the main reason you tup guides is because they don't make a whole lot of money and rely on tips. However, when ranch owner guides you all the money goes straight in his pocket.

Yes if someone (friend) invites me to hunt at their lease I also do not tip. I do however offer to buy some feed for the feeders.

So if you went to a restaurant where the owner also waited tables would you not tip then?

It's a little different when your forking over thousands of dollars + paying 150 a night lodging and a 200 a day guide fee. Which is all going in his pocket. Like I said one of the biggest arguments why you tip a guide is because they don't make a hole lot of money and all the money goes to the owner and the guides sometimes rely on a tip.

Both owners foot 100% of the bills and expenses also. 100% of that money you pay both of them does not go into their pockets.

Obviously but don't they mark the cost up to make a profit? I run a body shop and mark up costs to cover labor and materials so I make a profit. They don't do the same thing?

I hunt a long time friend's ranch, it would be weird to give him money for a tip. He puts me up for as long as I want to stay, cleans what I shoot, he keeps most of the meat as it would take me forever to eat it.
The first time I gave him a custom knife, I had a windmill and pump so I gave it to him, one year it was 600 lbs of deer corn, this year it was a pop up blind (his was damaged in a storm) and a deer decoy.

He always says I don't have too but I say I do.

Mark

I dont exactly disagree, at a restaurant, however you are paying the owner for the food and the tip is for the service. An outfitter/owner splits his fee with the actual guide. If the outfitter actually takes you out himself, he keeps 100% of the fee. That being said, I still tip, regardless of which one is guiding me. I dont like looking cheap or chicken s. The question of tip comes into play more so if the hunting or fishing is crappy and the owner took you out. Again, I still tip, but dont really like it. However, if the owner, guide, waitress, hooker is a smoking hot (female)well, her tip is usually larger.

I have a buddy that does the same Mark. The guy let's him hunt for free but my buddy brings corn every time to feel his feeders and other random hunting gear

If you tip by percantage would you tip $10-$15 for a $100 doe hunt?

I'd love too find a $100 doe hunt.

They do not "mark up" each hunt. Many charge a set fee for a hunt. Expenses they have for each hunt will be different from hunt to hunt and week to week and year to year. Most landowners are not making a living off of their hunting alone. They have other income from ranching/farming to help make a living.

I went on a doe hunt for $100 a doe last year.

Even $200 a doe tip $20?

If all they did is drop you off and you did all the rest of the work, then I would not tip much at all if any. The more work the "guide" puts in before I get there for my hunt and while I am hunting will afford more of a tip from me. I base my tips off the type of hunt and how work the guide/owner did to try to make my hunts successful. I have tipped on unsuccessful hunts due the effort that was put in before the hunt as well as during the hunt. If the "guide" has done his preparation and scouting before hand the hunt will show it, even if the animals don't move or weather does is not the best.